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I signed up for GEICO auto insurance only one month ago with a quoted policy premium of $108/month. This month, I moved residence in the same city with the exception of a different zip code. Geico sent me an e-mail asking me to update my address in their system. After I updated my address, GEICO instantly increased my monthly premium to $146/month. A 35% monthly increase instantly!
Did I have an accident? No. Did I receive a ticket from a police officer? No. The only thing that happened was I moved from a predominantly white, wealthy neighborhood in Chicago to a predominantly black and less affluent neighborhood 10 miles away. This is the only variable that changed. I am a married homeowner with good credit, above-average income, a full-time job with health insurance, no wrecks and no tickets. In all categories, I should not be punished simply for a change of zip code (in the same city). In fact, I believe this story would be of interest to the ***. It is a textbook case of profiling and racist corporate behavior that favors wealthy white Chicagoans. If this is not resolved, I will give my auto and condo insurance to a different company. Frankly, I'm shocked and appalled at this.
Heather M
Assistant Vice President
September 26, 2017
***
Revdex.com
1411 K. Street NW, 10th Floor
Washington, D.C. 20005-3404
Re: Complaint ID: ***
Dear ***,
We received your correspondence dated September 19, 2017. We have not included any personal identifying information in our response. We spoke with our insured on September 22, 2017, and explained the below information.
On August 1, 2017, our insureds purchased a policy effective August 2, 2017, for their 2015 Subaru. On September 12, 2017, we received notification from the United ***s Postal Service advising they had moved. On September 18, 2017, our insured updated his policy online with the new address and rated location, increasing the premium $193.14.
Insurance companies use accident statistics and claim reports to help rate locations around the country. We use rated territories, which are typically based on zip code boundaries, to review the frequency and severity of losses reported within these areas and therefore we charge different rates commensurate with the loss activity. The increase in our insureds’ premium was a result of different rates applied to the new address. We can assure you that we would never request or use race as an underwriting or rating factor.
We understand his concerns and greatly appreciate his feedback. If you have any further questions, please contact Joy K at or ***@geico.com.
Sincerely,
Heather M
Assistant Vice President
[To assist us in bringing this matter to a close, you must give us a reason why you are rejecting the response. If no reason is received your complaint will be closed as Answered]
Complaint: ***
I am rejecting this response because:
Even though GEICO has responded as I expected, I do not believe they have any numbers to back up their claims. Of course insurance companies use the number of claims for an area to determine premium rates. This makes sense and I agree with that logic. My complaint has to do with the amount my premium increased stemming from my recent address change. There is seemingly no reason for the dramatic rate increase other than greed. I don't believe a change of zip code in the same city justifies a 32% increase in premium rates. At the end of the day, in the city of Chicago, most people are driving the same roads (I-/, ***, ***, ***, ***, etc.). If you have a job downtown (which I do), everyone winds up in the same maze of traffic anyway. GEICO apparently took nothing else into consideration other than zip code when they decided to increase my rate by 32%. It's as if GEICO did not take into account my credit rating, home ownership status or driving record which I believe are all importance factors to look at when accessing the risk of insuring an individual. I believe they simply increased my premium by 32% because they thought I wouldn't complain. Either this or zip code is so heavily weighted in their algorithm that it overwhelms everything else in the equation. If zip code claims was the only variable of importance, I do not believe that my previous zip code of *** is so dramatically different my my new zip code of *** to justify a 32% premium increase. The *** zip code has a population of approximately 65,000 in 2010 and a population density of approximately 27,000 per square mile (Sources: http://www.city-data.com/zips/***.html, https://www.united***szipcodes.org/***/) while the *** zip code only has a population of approx. 49,000 and a population density of approx. 10,000 per square mile (source: http://www.city-data.com/zips/***.html, https://www.united***szipcodes.org/***/). Additionally, the median income is higher in *** than in ***. Even though I don't have the numbers to back this up, it would make more sense that car ownership is higher in *** than in *** leading to higher monthly average of auto insurance claims. It would make more sense that there are more cars on road and leading to more opportunity to hit each other. I would bet that higher median income correlates positively with higher car ownership rates. Furthermore, this is the city of Chicago. The north side is by far more densely populated and the roads are much more congested with traffic every day. If I were driving on north side roads every day, it would make more sense, intuitively, that there would be a higher probability of an accident. If GEICO is using claims per capita to determine my premium increase, then it would make more sense. However, the claims per person in an area would not necessarily increase the probability of my personal car having issues and it would definitely not increase it by 32%. How can a zip code with a smaller population, lower population density and likely fewer cars have more auto insurance claims? I don't think this is correct. For these reasons, I am taking my business to a different company.
Regards
Recently I made several changes to my policy which I have had for many years. When I accessed my account on line; I found that there was a Rental Reimbursement coverage charge added to my policy. In forty years, I have never purchased Rental Reimbursement coverage. I removed the coverage and let it go. Several weeks later, I made yet more changes to policy and AGAIN found the Rental Reimbursement Coverage added to my policy. Geico representative told me it was part of a package?? when I added my new vehicle. I was unaware of the additional charge/coverage, never agreed to it yet a minimal period could only be refunded. My belief is that Geico is adding coverage's to customer policy without disclosing,or advising. It's theft, fraud at best! Shame. I foresee a class action here.
This all starts when my bank, *** Bank, merged with *** Bank. On Aug. 8, I called Geico to update them with the new routing number my bank told me they would need. My automatic electronic funds transfer is set for the 9th of every month. So after giving the gentleman the new routing info I asked if he thought it were a good idea to run the new payment now while I was on the phone with him. He did exactly that with no hesitation. Everything went fine and my account was debited. The next day I checked my account and I had been billed 3 more time with insufficient funds amounting to $117.00 in insufficient funds fees. I called Geico first, they told me that they need 3 days advance notice to change any automatic electronic payment and no payment should have been made the day before it was set to go through. I informed them I was made aware of no such terms. I told them to listen to the call (they claim calls will be recorded for quality assurance), I was told the call was not recorded. They then said they were sorry and there would be no more attempts of charging my account that month and there would be no fees. I then went to the bank and explained the situation to them and they gladly took away the fees. Well now it's September 10th. I have been on and off the phone with Geico for the past 3 days because they are now charging me an extra $20.00 this month. I call them and get a totally different tone from a gentleman named Michael. He says that there nothing he can do so I speak to his manager Lionel he then says he found the original call and that I was informed of the 3 day notice. Which is a complete lie, I ask to be transferred to his supervisor he then says she is not in. I ask for voicemail he then makes me sit on hold for 35 minutes, then finally transfers me. I left a message and was never returned a call. Granted it's $20.00 it's principle to me.
September 18, 2017
***
Revdex.com
1411 K ST NW 10TH FLOOR
WASHINGTON DC 20005-3404
Customer ID No: ***
Dear ***:
We received your letter dated September 10, 2017 regarding the above noted customer. We have not included any personal identifying information in our response as you requested.
Our insured’s policy has been enrolled in Electronic Funds Transfer (EFT) since its inception date. The payments are scheduled to be extracted on or around the 9th day of every month.
On August 8, 2017 our insured called and spoke with an agent to update his banking information with the new routing number. Although our insured requested to have his August installment be processed with his new banking information, we were unable to stop the extraction that was already scheduled for August 9, 2017 using the prior routing number.
Since the August 9, 2017 payment was not honored by our insured’s financial institution, a $20.00 returned payment fee was applied to his policy balance. This fee is applied in accordance to the information provided to our insured at the time he enrolled in EFT.
It is an expectation for our agents to inform the policyholder when the regularly scheduled payment is already in route to the bank. Since this information was not conveyed to our insured when he called on August 8, 2017, we will remove the $20.00 return check fee from his policy balance. We spoke to our insured and informed him of our decision.
If there is any further investigation or documentation needed from GEICO, we will be more than happy to assist. Please feel free to contact Kim G, at , extension ***.
Sincerely,
Andrea B Assistant Vice President
GEICO Secure Insurance Company
Geico cancelled my policy two days before the hurricane Irma. I had an automatic payment, but they said that they tried to collect the payment twice. The most interesting thing is that they cancelld my account without notice... well, they sent me a letter three days after the cancellation. The most incredible thing is that they said that they can not reinstalling my collition and Comprenhensive policy now, only after the hurricane Irma Pass... This smells like a Fraud
Go somewhere else. This company will total your vehicle for profit the first chance they get. DO NOT release anything to them if you have had a crash. This company is a thieving pile of sum.
A negligent Geico customer ran a stop sign and totaled a vehicle I had just purchased .Instead of covering my losses I got a percentage of it .In accountability,and pass the buck run around that could cost me thousands of dollars as I had just started paying on the vehicle .They claim its not worth what I owe while hiding behind a low grade estimating system
Apparently Geiko doesn't pay car accident claims! Here's what happened...
On Friday august 25th my wife parked in a parking lot at Frys grocery store in downtown Phoenix. Upon leaving she was backed into by a woman who immediately admitted fault and agreed to pay whatever damages incurred. She then text messaged my wife ADMITTING FAULT (this is in caps because it's foreshadowing). She also told my wife that she would get her insurance company (Geiko) involved if the damages were expensive. My wife took a picture of her damaged car as well as ours, got her insurance information and went on her way. Since then we have had the vehicle looked at by our repair guy and there are over $1200 worth of damages. We told the woman this information through text message and, crickets, nothing. So, my wife called Geiko expecting some resolution. My wife was told that the claim is denied due to no proof of the accident. Apparently this girl denied anything happened and Geiko obviously doesn't want to spend any money. So, in short we have a text message from the girl admitting fault and a picture of both vehicles when the accident happened but according to Geiko it didn't happen. Shame on this horrible unethical evil company. Now we are stuck trying to figure out what to do next and will probably have to repair our car with our own money. This is one of the biggest problems we have in this country, nobody wants to do the right thing anymore and we have companies like Geiko perpetuating this behavior.
Geico cancelled my policy without ever sending an email or using the app! It was cancelled based on a verified NY state DMV clerical error. When I sent verification of the error, as requested, my policy STILL didn't resume although I was assured it would. They stink.
I've been mislead on coverage for the last 3yrs! I requested a credit on my first payment of my renewal..got hung up on and spoke with a manager that was just as rude..issue is not fixed. Advised basically to change my policy or find a new policy over approximately $30-50
Can't even imagine being treated as poorly as I was with my recent claim with Geico. Not only are they incredibly hard to get ahold of (Ryan V and his supervisor Tamara P), once you do, you can only talk to 1 specific person who works about 9-4 and rarely calls you back. I got passed to his supervisor and that person's manager and STILL nothing got resolved. My claim was from something hitting me on the freeway and they really acted like I purposely damaged my car to go through all the trouble of submitting a claim and having to work with them. The overall process took a over a month and they denied my claim in the end. Unbelievable. They are definitely a low-rate, terrible insurance company. I would not recommend and really would not trust them in any other car situation moving forward. The San Diego claims office is a nightmare to work with and customer service should really be something they look to train their employees on. For anyone needing insurance - stay away!
I am a former customer of Geico and happy to have left. After years of accident free driving under Geico, I was involved in a "no-fault" 3 car accident in North Carolina on the way to our Hilton Head, SC vacation. After my car was deemed un-drivable, we were towed to the wreckage lot. This lot was in a very unsafe area, away from civilization and there was nothing within walking distance. We both needed medical attention, but we had our puppy in the car and we couldn't do anything about it. We were 6 hours away from our destination and each time I called Geico that afternoon, each representative told me there was nothing they can do all car rental places in the area were closed. The Enterprise that was open by the airport (30 miles away) would not be covered by Geico, because of rate differential. So Geico, left two women stranded alone in a totaled car in a dark, desolate area with no food, water or bathroom facilities (the wreckage company was closed). We were shaken up really bad from the accident and had symptoms of whiplash and back pain. Thanks to Geico, we now had fear and anxiety. My passenger's elderly parents (with bad eyesight) had to drive 6 hours from Hilton Head, SC to pick us up and were not able to reach us until 9:30 pm that night. We couldn't do anything, but wait. With all the Geico cars I see on the road, they couldn't have sent one to pick us up and bring us to a safe place or arranged transportation for us in some way if not a rental? After years of paying premiums, I received no customer service at a time I truly needed it. Geico put me in a very bad position and subjected me and my passenger to potential harm and danger. This insurance company will gladly take your money, but you will get nothing out of their service but stress and aggravation. They line their wallets, while you the customer suffer. 97% customer satisfaction my ***! They are full of ***...please stay away from Geico!
Most people post reviews when they are unhappy with a business; I am one of the few that posts both kinds of reviews.
This is a positive review, from the perspective of someone hit by a Geico customer. I had nothing but a positive experience dealing with Geico to get my car repaired.
From the very first phone call, I was treated with respect. All my questions were answered and everything was handled politely.
Unfortunately, the tow trucker driver (called by my insurance company, from the scene of the accident) caused some damage that I thought was going to be costly. Because I politely wrote a letter and spoke to the adjuster – explaining that the damage wouldn’t have even been caused if their client hadn’t been negligent – they agreed to pay for all the damages, even the damage caused by the tow truck driver.
Another thing I was impressed with: I live in Colorado, in an area that can get lots of snow. The accident happened at the end of February. I have a 4-wheel drive vehicle. The adjuster agreed to give me an upgraded 4-wheel drive rental. I had a rental for two months while my car was being serviced.
Even after the accident, after the car was returned to me, there was a problem and the car had to be taken to the dealership for an electronic repair. Again, the Geico adjust was very quick to get to the dealership and to issue a check for the additional repair.
Finally, because I have a 2016 vehicle with little mileage, even though I was told that the accident didn’t cause anything to affect the value of the car, they in good faith provided a settlement check.
Overall, I couldn’t have been more pleased with the service provided by Geico.
Thank you for your kind comments Ms. McCloskey
It is currently the end of August 2017. My family and I were rear ended by a Geico insured driver on March 18 2017. Our account handler has changed 5 times! They don't offer a reasonable amount for injuries. I settled my personal claim to just be done and have been waiting nearly 3 weeks for it to come in the mail. I was assured 3 times that it was mailed to me on July 31st. Their representatives are rude and inconsiderate. They talk over you and don't listen to your concerns. I am also reporting them to the state insurance board. Hopefully they'll someday go out of business they are ruining the system. I've read horrible reviews from their personal customers. I can't even say enough or express enough of how terrible this company is. Stay clear! And if you've been in an accident with their insured, use a lawyer, and buckle down for a good long haul before that gets settled.
On 8/14/2017, I was rear ended on a state highway. After contacting my insurance company about the incident, the representatives that I spoke to from the day of the accident up until 8/18/17 were the least bit transparent. The reps that I spoke with explained that I should get my car repaired through a claim due to an accident that I was not at fault for. The Geico representatives made it clear that I was not at fault for being rear ended and as a result, Geico would take full responsibility for my repairs. I was told that they could obtain a police report in a timely manor that would allow them to go after the at fault drivers insurance company. Geico reassured me that I'd be in a rental up until my car was done with repair work. They even set me up with an auto-body shop affiliated with Geico (*** in Kenvil, NJ). I received a phone call on 8/18/17 from the auto body shop stating that my car was ready for pick up, and that I'd be responsible for a $500 deductible. Confused and puzzled, I reached out to Geico questioning why I was being charged $500. Come to find out I had two options: I could have used my collision coverage and paid out of pocket for the damage, or I could have went thru the at fault drivers insurance and paid no initial costs out of pocket. I did not know about the second option until I spoke to the Auto Body representative. I spoke to a Geico representative and voiced my frustrations about not being given all options. There was no damage done to the car that the eye could see besides a small dink to the bumper. However, there was internal damage. After the claim was submitted through Geico under my collision insurance, I was then made aware that I could have driven the car as is (which would have been fine) and went through the other drivers insurance without upfront costs. I escalated this issue reaching out to a Geico Supervisor by the name of John A-C***. Johns called me a liar and said that I was just after a free claim. This was my first accident.
Jeremy C
Assistant Vice President
August 25, 2017
Revdex.com of Metro Washington DC & Eastern Pennsylvania
1411 K St. NW, 10th Floor Washington, DC 20005-3404
RE: complaint id #: ***
Complainant: ***
Our Claim #: ***
Our Insured: ***. ***
Loss Date: August 14, 2017
Dear Ms.,
Thank you for your letter of inquiry dated August 21, 2017.
This loss was reported to us on August 14, 2017 by our insured’s driver, *** via online. Ms. reported that she was rear-ended by *** while traveling on Route 80 in New Jersey. We spoke with *** to advise Ms. was not at fault for the accident and we explained her filing options. Ms. advised that she would file her claim through the other insurance company, ***.
On August 16, 2017 Ms. contacted us and requested to file their claim through us and scheduled a vehicle inspection for August 17, 2017. We advised Ms. and Ms. that this was a collision loss and it would be subject to their $500 collision deductible. On August 18, 2017 Ms. contacted us and advised that she was upset she had to pay her deductible to the body shop. We reiterated that since she is filing through her collision coverage it would be subject to her $500 deductible.
On August 23, 2017 we spoke with *** and they confirmed they had accepted responsibility for the loss. We issued a payment in the amount of $500 to Ms. for her deductible. We spoke with Ms. and advised her that payment had been issued.
If any additional information is needed please contact Jenna K, Consumer Relations Administrator at or ***.
Sincerely,
Jeremy C
Assistant Vice President
I’ve been a customer of Geico for close to 20 years. My kids have had a few accidents and they have been extremely professional and I have zero complaints about the claims they handled. Their service has been outstanding.
after 8 yrs of ins my cars geico decided I was a risk with no claims from me ,a perfect driving record, there were 3 claims in 3 yrs all resolved by the other parties,none my fault. So they concluded I was a risk and warranted a 65% increase in premium. does this make sense? they take your money and throw you out when they feel like it.
On Monday, June 7, 2017, at about 12:30PM, one of your insured pulled out of a parking lot and into oncoming traffic. He was trying to cross the road. I applied my brakes, but was not successful in stopping in time.
The accident occurred in the *** block of Fry Rd. in Katy, Texas. The Harris County Sheriff's Department arrived on scene soon after. Your insured was issued a citation (ticket).
My complaint is with your people locally here in Katy, Tx. I have given them all information needed. Yesterday afternoon (June 8th), I was informed by the local office that your insured had given a statement. Today, I was informed by a Ms. B that this was not true. I feel I am being lied to. I am just trying to take care of things so my car can be fixed and I can get back to my life.
I have been given a claim number.
I have been told by the Katy office that until Mr. Aquallo calls and gives a statement, they can't do a thing. They also do not seem to be making any effort to contact him. I have been informed by other insurance agents that part of an adjuster's job is to make the effort to make contact with the insured. Even if it means to go to the insured's home.
The Katy office is located at ***'s Way, Katy, Tx (77450 or 77492)
Thank you for your time,
***,Jr.
August 14, 2017
Revdex.com of Metropolitan Washington DC and Eastern Pennsylvania
ATTN: ***
1411 K St. NW, 10th floor
P.O. Box 149104
Washington, DC 20005-3404
RE: FILE NUMBER: ***
Dear Ms.,
We received your correspondence dated August 10, 2017. We have not included any personal identifying information on our response, as you requested.
On August 10, 2017, a representative of our company secured a recorded statement from our insured. This completed our liability investigation and a decision was rendered. All parties, including the complainant have been notified of the liability decision. An inspection has been setup for the complainant’s vehicle along with a rental vehicle while his vehicle is under repair. At this time, we have addressed the complainant’s concerns.
If we can be of any further assistance, please contact Ryan C, Claims Manager, at , via FAX at , or via e-mail at ***.
Sincerely,
Tara C
Assistant Vice President of Claims, GEICO Houston
Phone:
I want to make it abundantly clear, I tried my best to give Geico a chance, and their service is deplorable! I was in the market for better rates for auto insurance, so I visited their website. Going online turned in having to call. Having to call turned in wasting 2 hours giving countless information, bank routing information, and finally the representative ends with a "I'm sorry you have to do this whole process again via mail in application". Even though I'm frustrated, I still wait for the application, and fill it out.
Geico vehemently found a reason to not go through with the application. For over a month, and over 3 times sending it back and forth, they have found minute excuses not to accept the application (from "we dont understand what "some college" means,all the way to "we didnt get the additional driver name" even though it was given multiple times during this whole process and they are listed under the car owners).
I can only imagine having to file an actual claim with this company if you get into a accident. I would advise anyone searching for insurance to take their time, and not to always go with the cheapest, but a reputable company that cares about its clients.
My daughter was going into the Army in a few weeks. She was hit in a parking lot by another car insured by Geico (well actually it was someone else driving the car, not the actual insured person). A police officer came out, observed the damage, wrote a report and acknowledged that the accident was the drivers fault. She waited 10 days before the "driver" responded to the insurance company and then proceeded to claim that he didn't even "think" he hit her. Geico DENIED fixing her car because the inspector concluded after reviewing pictures of both cars and determined that the damage did not support the claim. Geico only evaluated pictures and did not even see her car in person and made the decision based solely on pictures. Even worse, the uninsured guy had a pretty significant arrest record and my daughter is an upstanding, hard-working young woman. The damage is still on her car while she is at bootcamp. We plan to drop Geico ASAP and we have spoken with an attorney who is going to take on the case because she feels she was definitely wronged by Geico. I would NOT recommend this company -- no matter what they proclaim on TV. Then -- look at the "A" score on this....145 Negative Reviews, 1 Positive but they have an "A"???? Hmmmmm
Geico added coverage that was not required or requested. I ordered car insurance over the phone. The Geico representative went over the coverages but mentioned nothing about mechanical break down insurance that was added and I did not request. Why would anyone need mechanical breakdown coverage on a brand new car? They don't. Its just an easy unethical way Geico lines its pockets. Geico gets 1 star for being greedy and unethical.