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5965 Grafton Rd, Valley City, Ohio, United States, 44280-9329

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I purchased a craftsman edger from Lowe’s on 09/02/19, and had not tried to start it since in purchased it until January of this year. Took it back to the store and they advised that I had to contact craftsman. Craftsman advised that I need to contact MTD . MTD gave me a list of repair shops to take the edger to and advise them that it would be a warranty repair. Brought the edger to Hoyts cycle shop in Thomasville, Ga and the lady advised that I would need my paperwork showing that I purchased the equipment and that I would have to pay a $50 shop fee just in case MTD did not honor the warranty because the equipment had been used. I either want MTD to repair the edger or send me a new one

MTD Products Response • Feb 19, 2020

Dear ***:

Thank you for choosing Craftsman for your outdoor needs. We are sorry to hear you are experiencing issues with your purchase.

Please be aware the repair firms are of their own identity and not a affiliated employee of MTD Products. It is not unusual for the repair firms to charge a bench fee up front to protect their interest in the case that the failure is not that of a manufacturing defect.

The fee is refunded if the failure found is covered under the warranty. With this said, Please have the the repair firm contact us directly and reference case *** for an authorization to examine your unit to determine the failure and pay for the diagnostic fee.

Should the failure be the direct result of a manufacturing defect and not related to fuel related failure, the warranty as outlined within your owners manual will cover parts and labor.

Sincerely,

MTD Administrator

Poor customers service. I bought an LX2 XT42 lawn tractor in November of 2018. I contacted customer service regarding a manufacturing defect in the tire of my lawn tractor. The bead of the tire has a 3/4 inch chunk missing from it. After contacting customer support and being sent to the local repair shop I was informed this was a wear and tear warranty item and outside of warranty. I tried to dispute the resolution. I contacted Cub Cadet support by phone two times and on their online chat. Their live support team was incredibly rude and unwilling to allow me to submit a dispute for a defect that came directly from the original manufacturing and was not caused by wear and tear.

After this event I attempted to post my comments on customer service on their web page https://www.cubcadet.com/en_US/lawn-and-garden-tractors/xt2-lx42/13AJA1CS010.htm... but was told my comments were moderated. I am now attempting to understand how my factual account violated their customer feedback terms.

The product itself runs fine, but the corporate support and warranty team has a total lack of professionalism.

MTD Products Response • Dec 12, 2019

Please refer to your owners manual for warranty coverages. All failures must be reported at the time of failure in order to provide adequate support. Tires were out of the 30 day limited warranty based on your purchase date of 11/2018. All calls are recorded and reviewed for professionalism.

we purchase Cub Cadet 3 Stage snow blower (model: 31AHJDVA756, S/N: ***) on August 19, 2019 during tax free weekend from ***. On Dec 2, we used first time to remove the snow. The snow blower was started, but did not blow any snow, and make grinding noise. so we turned it off and shoveled the wet snow by hand. Then we called *** to explain the situation, they simply told us the return policy is 30 days, the protection plan is within 90 days period and stating our equipment no longer has anything to do with ***. We contacted MTD LLL to describe the issue: 3 out 4 shear pins were sheared when the snow blower only moved 1 foot . They told us we manufactured the machine, not repair the machine. Please talk to you repair shop and they believed the cause of broken shear pin is heavy snow. and direct us to replace shear pin. After further inspection of the machine, we found the auger on the left is out of shape and interfere two impellers in the middle to cause 3 shear pins to be broken.

We phoned *** Equipment who is their authorized repair shop to move forward with the repair process, they told us pick up service is not included even though this is a brand new machine and seems it's mfg defect. I sent the picture to them trying to explain the issue they said we need to negotiate with manufacturer. So we called MTD again this morning (Dec 3) to convince them it's manufacture defect, they need to cover all the cost including shipping and transportation and told us again they are not responsible for repair and their warranty doesn't include transportation.

This is very expensive snow blower $1440 and it's broken during the first couple seconds from the first use. Then we have to spend $150 dollars for technician to come in for inspection, then take the snow blower back to shop to repair. The lead time is unknown. We lived in Boston area and already had two major winter storms on Dec 2 and Dec 3 and can't survive without good snow blower.

This product has quality issue and manufacture does not even want to see a photo to recognize the issue. MTD is not accountable and respectful to their customer and their product's quality doesn't meet our criteria at all and cause so much inconvenience to our life. We would like to pursue to get our money back from *** or from manufacturer and will find other good quality snow blowers.

MTD Products Response • Dec 09, 2019

Dear Mr.;

We are sorry you have experienced issues with your purchase from *** Online. Our recorded conversations indicate multiple suggestions were made for you to take the said unit to an authorized service center as outlined within the warranty outlined in the owners manual. Pick up and delivery is not covered under our warranty. Below is a list of authorized service centers. You can also inquire at your local *** to see if they contract someone within your area.

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We are unable to provide a diagnosis over the phone. We have received and retained the photos under your case ***. Once the unit has been reviewed and diagnosed by an authorized service center, they can contact us directly with your case number to discuss.

Sincerely,

Cub Cadet Administrator

Customer Response • Dec 12, 2019

I am rejecting this response because: The machine shop *** repaired the snow blower and reported the root cause of irregular auger cannot be determined. but your technical support of dealer line mistranslated ***'s report and claimed the customer hit the snow blower. Now the repair is not even under warranty because they believed we damaged the snow blower. During the three way conference call among MTD, *** and customer, *** explained their findings, but their technical support didn't take note and didn't listen to ***'s explanation and insisted the repair should not be covered. We have been very frustrated with the whole situation and request MTD management looks into this.

Attached are two photos of auger issue for the snow blower. Please review them carefully to determine how the auger can be widen evenly if it's caused by hitting something. I also attached payment, a total of $278.22 to ***, and request reimbursment from MTD.

Please let us know if any information you need to clarify the issue.

MTD Products Response • Dec 13, 2019

Dear Mr.;

Our Conclusion after reviewed by authorized service technicians is the auger blades are bent which is evident in either the unit sustaining impact or being dropped during shipping and handling. For the latter you must pursue thru *** Online and their shipping.

The damage is not the result of a manufacturing defect. Our Customer Service Teams strive to find the best possible solution for our customer’s needs. We are most often able to determine a compromise that is both satisfactory for our customers and meets industry standards for acceptable customer service practices or policies. One approach we utilize is to gather all pertinent information, evaluate the information, and then make a determination. We understand that extenuating circumstances may occur and we will do our best to determine a fair and just solution for your customer service or product inquiry. We appreciate the opportunity to review our customer’s opinion of this decision and for giving us the opportunity of offering an explanation. We hope that our decision and explanation will be reviewed objectively.

Sincerely,

Cub Cadet Administrator

I have club cadet side by side. it has something wrong with it clutch in tramission is slipping and only why to fix it new parts then will have to it in low gear only.it to loud vibrates and will blow motor up they to fix it right or give back money.

MTD Products Response • Nov 26, 2019

We are sorry to hear you have experienced issues with your purchase. Please refer to your owners manual for warranty coverages. If you purchased an extended warranty, you will need to contact the authorized service center from which you purchased.

Sincerely,

Karen G

Administrator

Customer Response • Nov 27, 2019

I am rejecting this response because:
FIXING IS NOT THE ISSUE. IT NEEDS A HEAVY CLUCTH WITH HEAVY SHOES SO YOU CAN RUN IT IN HIGH GEAR. THEY ARE SAYING THAT HAS TO BEEN RUN IN LOW GEAR UP TO 25 MILES . IT SO LOUD THAT YOU CAN NOT STAND TO BE IN IT. IF RUN IN HIGH GEAR THIS WILL HAPPEN AGAIN. THEY TO MAKE HEAVY SO THIS DOESNT HAPPEN. WORD WILL GET OUT ABOUT THESE AND NOBODY WILL BUY THESE. PEOPLE CANT AFFORD HAVE THESE FIX ALL TIME. ALSO VIBRATES IN LOW GEAR.

MTD Products Response • Nov 27, 2019

Dear Mr. G;

We are sorry you did not find our response satisfactory. Your unit is out of the limited warranty period. Your conversation with our service technician today indicates and is supported by your local dealership that the unit is not being ran as outlined within your owners manual.

A replacement clutch can be purchased with one of our Customer Service Representative or online at www.cubcadet.com.

Sincerely,

Cub Cadet Administrator

I was one among the few who bought the new 30” Troy-built electronic riding mower on Fall 2018 (Model No. ***1-Serial no. ***). Due to the unavailability of the mower in ***s in Maryland, where I live, I bought the mower from Tennessee, which was the nearest available location, and spent around $500 to transfer it to Maryland. However, since the beginning, the mower showed various error codes and failed to operate frequently, but it worked soon after I switched it off and on again for few times. I stored the mower during the winter according to the manufacturer’s instructions. On Spring 2019, after I used the mower couple of times, I noticed that the battery was draining very fast (drained in 38-40 minutes in contrast to their claim that the battery should run for one-hour).
Suddenly, on July 2019, although the charge port door was closed, the mower failed to operate and showed a new error code “Close charge port door”. This error was consistent and I could not operate the mower. As a result, I contacted ***s who referred me to the manufacturer because it is under the warranty (it came with three years manufacturer warranty). When I contacted Troy-bilt, they asked me to take it to one of their authorized service centers.
On July 26, 2019, I took the mower and its charger to one of these authorized service centers, ***, Inc. (located in ***). The lady who received the mower claimed that it would take couple of days and she asked for $50 as a deposit (to be refunded if the repair covered under manufacturer warranty!).
Since then, I have contacted the service center dozens of times for follow-up without success. Each time they told me that they will call me back because the person who answered the phone didn’t know about the details of my claim. I also visited their service center one day and received similar answer! As a result, I contacted the Troy-bilt customer service around mid-August to escalate the issue but they told me to solve this issue between me and the service center! I asked to speak with a supervisor but *** neither answered his/her phone nor call me back.
On September 18, I contacted the Troy-bilt customer service to follow up with them, however, I surprised when the customer service representative told me that there was no warranty claim on their system for my mower’s serial number! This time, the representative provided me with a case number (Claim number ***) and he asked me to contact their authorized service center, personally, to fax the paper work!
I called the service center and explained to them that Troy-bilt hasn’t received any warranty claim! This time, they referred me to a person who told me that she will call me back. However, as previous times, no body called me back.
On the first week of October, I visited the service center for follow-up and to find that person. She didn’t provide any explanation for why they kept the mower for more than two months without sending a warranty claim to the manufacturer. She failed to find my documents on front of her and she asked for my own papers to make copies again. I provided her with my case number at Troy-bilt and asked her to send the report and other paper work to Troy-bilt. She promised me that she will contact Troy-bilt.
One week later and for the first time, I received a voice mail from the service center. When I called back, they told me that they just received the schematic diagram for my mower (more than two months after they got my mower!) and they will need more time so the mechanic can take a look. They asked me to be patient, especially that we are at the end of the season, or I can get the mower as-it if I don’t want to wait, but they will not refund the $50 deposit (again, more than two months after they got my mower!).

Today is Tuesday October 29, 2019, I completed more than 3 months and finished the mowing season without my mower.

MTD Products Response • Nov 04, 2019

Mr. ***:

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We are working with the service center to help resolve your issue with your riding mower. There has been some delay being able to reach the repair facility, so we are asking for a little bit more patience and I will be contacting you (thru Revdex.com) as soon as we are able.

Thank you

Melanie L

Service Representative

Customer Response • Nov 09, 2019

I am rejecting this response because:They didn’t solve the main issue, didn’t provide any reimbursement, and they asked me to be patient! Are you serious? I’m waiting since July!

MTD Products Response • Nov 20, 2019

Dear Mr.

I have attempted to contact *** on a daily basis. The only one who had knowledge of the repair process, was Jean. Jean was mostly not available and was repeatedly told to call back the next day.

I am working with another service center to resolve this issue. We apologize for your experience with the service center. Your experience has been documented and is being addressed with their Territory Reps. My game plan is to have Value Equipment pick your unit from *** and repair.

I did leave you a voice mail and if you would like to contact me directly - feel free to call me on my direct line ***.

Sincerely

***

Melanie L.

Customer Response • Feb 25, 2020

Follow up for complaint #*** (complaint was closed without my permission): On Fall 2018, I bought the 30” Troy-built electronic riding mower (Model No. ***) On Spring 2019, after I used the mower couple of times, I noticed that the battery was draining very fast (drained in 38-40 minutes in contrast to their claim that the battery should run up to one-hour). Suddenly, on July 2019, although the charge port door was closed, the mower failed to operate and showed a new error code “Close charge port door”. This error was consistent and I could not operate the mower. When I contacted Troy-bilt, they asked me to take it to one of their authorized service centers to be repaired under the warranty. On July 26, 2019, I took the mower and its charger to one of these authorized service centers (Lehman Hardware, Inc. located at 5921 Belair Road, Baltimore, MD 21206). The authorized service center couldn’t repair the mower over 4 months period! I contacted MTD Products, Inc. about this issue many times, however, it is 7 months now and I haven’t received my mower nor received a reimbursement.

MTD Products Response • Feb 26, 2020

Dear ***

We are deeply apologetic to the issues you have incurred. I am a newly assigned personnel getting involved with your complaint at this time. I have reviewed the file and find at this time we in agreement that a reimbursement is imminent at this point.

I was unable to find a copy of your proof of purchase. If you could please attach with a response to our offer, We will expedite your reimbursement. Please confirm a mailing address for the reimbursement as well.

With our Sincerest Apology,

Karen

MTD Warranty Administrator

Customer Response • Feb 26, 2020

I am rejecting this response because:
I
cannot accept this resolution without knowing the reimbursement details! I paid $1,228.57 for the mower after discount (MSRP:
$2,499) in addition to $500 delivery fee (from TN to MD) [the mower was out of
stock in my home state, and TN was the nearest state with mower in stock]. Additionally,
when I took the mower to the service center, they charged me $50 as a deposit then
refused to refund it. The whole process took an
unconscionably long time, thus, the total reimbursement should equal
or exceed $1778.57 especially that the current market price for a similar
product “CRAFTSMAN E150 30-in Lithium Ion Electric Riding Lawn Mower Mulching
Capable” is $2,599.00 (without tax) and I will pay this amount in order to
replace my mower. Finally, in addition to this reimbursement, I need
a report indicating the details of MTD communication with Lehman Hardware,
Inc. (explaining Lehman Hardware, Inc. negligence and including their failure to take appropriate
actions in a timely manner). I’m planning to take a legal action against Lehman
Hardware, Inc. and this report will be used as a supportive document.

Mailing address:

MTD Products Response • Feb 27, 2020

Dear ***

Please supplied all invoices incurred with regards to your unit for further review and consideration of reimbursement. Once that has been in received we will be in a better position to provide a possible resolution.

Sincerely,

MTD Administrator

Customer Response • Mar 01, 2020

I am rejecting this response because:
No agreement on the reimbursement, yet.

Please find attached: 1-The mower purchase
invoice and loading ticket (loaded from TN), 2- Service center invoice, 3-
Truck rental invoice (for mower delivery), 4- Credit card statement (gas expenses
for mower delivery).Additionally, there was $131 or $139 spent on one
night accommodation during the trip between MD and TN but I don’t have the invoice nor the card
statement for that stay.

MTD Products Response • Mar 02, 2020

Dear ***

Thank you for your receipts. The reimbursement will be based on the $50.00 Diagnostic fee and the cost of the unit for a Total of $1278.57.

Sincerely,

MTD Administrator

Customer Response • Mar 02, 2020

I am rejecting this response because:
The $1278.57 will not cover the cost incurred for mower delivery nor the cost for replacing my mower. According to your warranty, if you couldn't repair my mower, you suppose to replace it. Thus, I'm asking for the incurred cost which is much less than the current market price to replace my mower. My mower's model is not for sale anymore, however, similar model such as "CRAFTSMAN E150 30-in Lithium Ion Electric Riding Lawn Mower Mulching Capable" will cost $2,599 without tax!

MTD Products Response • Mar 03, 2020

Dear ***

At this time, we can move forward with repairs or we can submit a reimbursement to you for $1,278.57. Please respond with how you would like to proceed so we can advise the service center or submit the reimbursement.Case number: ***.Thank you.

MTD Administrator

Customer Response • Mar 08, 2020

I am rejecting this response because:
I'm wondering why you still offering the repair after you failed for the last 7 months. On one of your last week emails you wrote "We have advised the authorized service center to field destroy the unit. After replacing a few items, we were unable to clear the message". Thus, I only have one logical option, the reimbursement. Go ahead and submit the reimbursement ASAP.

I bought a Cub Cadet snow blower and it wasn't running right from the first day I started it up. I called their customer support and they said the noises it was making were normal. The warranty period is three years. A year and a half later, I came home one day and the gas tank was emptied onto the floor of my shed. I took it in for service. The guy said it was surging abnormally, and that there was a speck of something in the carburetor which most likely wasn't doing anything. He said it needed a new carburetor and gaskets totally over two hundred dollars. I am very finicky about the gas I use and keep it very clean. The company is refusing to back up their warranty and blaming everything on me, despite the fact it was making noises which turned out not to be normal from day one, and they lied to me about it claiming it was normal.

MTD Products Response • Oct 22, 2019

We are happy to help clarify our warranty.

Most carburetor failures are fuel related. Today's fuels break down rapidly and even the smallest residue can clog carburetors and this is not covered by our warranty or any other small engine warranty. If the repair facility determined that the failure was not fuel related, we would review their claim. There is a wealth of information regarding fuel additives and synthetic fuel on the internet to help prevent this issue.

You mention that your snow thrower wasn't right from the beginning. I don't know if this applies - it is normal for a snow thrower engine to surge. The engines on snow throwers are set to run with a slightly rich fuel mixture. This is to prevent the engine from bogging or stalling when the snow thrower suddenly experiences a heavy load of snow.

Sincerely,

MTD Warranty

Customer Response • Oct 22, 2019

I am rejecting this response because: I use only fresh, 89 octane rec fuel (no ethanol) and keep things as spotless as I can. The guy who is fixing it said the tiny piece of saw dust (that's how he described it) is highly unlikely to have caused it. Your people described it as debris, but he said it was only a speck. You have serious issues with your gaskets that needs to be looked at!!! They also told me I'm supposed to drain the tank every 5 or 6 days of inactivity. Who does that??? You guys are selling an inferior product and hanging the cost on your customers. I have another snow blower, three lawn mowers, and two outboard motors that I haven't had any carburetor problems with yet! It is definitely not the fuel unless your gaskets are that bad.

MTD Products Response • Oct 23, 2019

Fuel related failures are not warrant-able after the first season. Currently we are no experiencing any across the board failures with our gaskets. The short answer is that a tiny piece of dirt is most likely stuck in the needle and seat of the float valve, preventing the valve from fully seating and causing the leak.

Feel free to contact our technical support if you have any questions. We are here to help

Tech support -

Customer Response • Oct 23, 2019

I am rejecting this response because: If one tiny speck of dirt causes the whole gas tank to leak out, you have a serious and dangerous engineering defect!!! If this is the case, why on earth wouldn't you people put a gas filter on your machines for safety reasons??? I have owned a lot of gas operated devices, and never have I heard of that. Also, I do not see anything in the warranty to show the carburetor is only warranted for one year. The reason I thought a gasket is a problem is that is one reason I am waiting on parts. By the way Revdex.com, you should know that the dealer says it is nearly never, if at all, they fix their carburetor problems as it is always (in their view) the customer's fault.

I purchased a cub cadet riding lawn mower on 6/9/2016 from tractor supply in luray va. 22835. on or about 9/10/19 the mower caught fire on my wagon almost in gulfing me. it burned the mowe ,to a total lost and 50% of my wagon was burned,I call cub cadet and filed a complaint, the give me a case # 04916270 they advised me they did have a problem with there zero turn mowers catching fire but not my model, I send them pics. 4 times they said they didn't get them and stop responding to my complaint.

MTD Products Response • Oct 21, 2019

Thank you for contacting MTD /Cub Cadet regarding your Cub Zero Turn rider.

There is one photo attached -but it is of the trailer. Please respond with photos of the unit and also a copy of your purchase receipt.

Sincerely

MTD Service Representative.

Customer Response • Oct 24, 2019

I am rejecting this response because:
The receipt and photo's are attached.

MTD Products Response • Oct 29, 2019

Dear Mr. *** H.

After careful review of the case, your photos and the complaint we will not be reimbursing you for your mower. Your mower was outside of our warranty and our warranty does not cover fire.

Sincerely

MTD Warranty Administrator

Customer Response • Oct 30, 2019

I am rejecting this response because: I was almost injured in the fire of the riding mower, warranty was not the issue ,catching fire is the issue , they sold a product that caught fire and burned up almost causing personal injury. I and still having flashbacks of almost burning up on that mower.I will accept nothing less them a new mower,wagon repaired. and the money I had to pay to have my grass mowed.$140.

MTD refuses to warranty deck on Craftsman T130 Riding Lawn Mower despite service center requesting it be replaced under warranty. Sam from Technical was very unprofessional in conversations on the phone and made several false accusations. MTD made several false claims regarding the service center (***) supposedly not having entered a warranty claim - also Sam in Technical support falsely accused the rider having been abused by mowing concrete.

Matt from Customer Service was excellent though.

Would like for MTD to release all phone call recordings to the Revdex.com so that the Revdex.com is aware of how representatives from the company behave.

Additional information available to Revdex.com by request if needed.

MTD Products Response • Oct 14, 2019

We apologize for the experience that you have had. After review of the photos that were provided by the service center - the deck shows no manufacturers defects, therefore no warranty.

Customer Response • Oct 14, 2019

I am rejecting this response because: damage to the deck occurred AFTER the belt guards broke. Damage to the deck is secondary to the initial equipment defect. The mower hit the broken belt guard pieces. Repair service center also summoned that the bearings were bad - and these too were not replaced.

Moreover, the business does not accept responsibility for the horrible customer interactions by Sam in Technical. As a representative of the company, it is the company’s responsibility to hold their employees to an ethical standard in all communications with consumers. The lack thereof sets a precedence in which unprofessionalism is allowed and thus inhibits the company’s efforts to hold others accountable for unprofessionalism as it could lead to civil lawsuits alleging double-standards when disciplining employees. It also morphs public opinion that unprofessionalism is a cornerstone of the company’s expectations - thus likely causing consumers to do their business with competitors of said company. In a consumer-led market, this does not bode well for future success of the company. With less business, the company could be forced to lay off good employees. With less skilled workers, and a status quo of allowing employees to behave unprofessionally, sales will almost certainly decrease. Such possibilities could be extremely detrimental to the financial outlook for the company - potentially, one day, forcing the company to declare bankruptcy which could potentially affect other consumers with warranty related issues such as myself. None of this is certain of course, but this is not the first warranty issue posted by consumers to the Revdex.com - and all of these reviews collectively do not shed a positive light regarding MTD Products. It’s unfortunate that MTD sacrifices it’s name and reputation by allowing faulty equipment, and unprofessional employees to show the consumer world exactly what the company stands for. I ask that MTD release the phone call recordings to the Revdex.com so that it may be decimated to past, present, and future consumers.

MTD Products Response • Oct 17, 2019

Mr. Samuel ***:

The photos of the deck in question and conversation with the service center indicate that your riding mower was damaged by misuse, abuse or neglect.

Sincerely

MTD Service Representative

Customer Response • Oct 17, 2019

I am rejecting this response because:That’s a pretty substantial claim. Please release the phone conversations to the Revdex.com and the public. Those phone calls do not support what you just claimed. Why would the service center request the deck to be warranteed if they suspected abuse or neglect?Obviously MTD is establishing (or likely has already established) a pattern of inappropriate business practices and interactions.

Their customer service in their finance department is inconsistent and does not follow through with what they say they will do. I financed a zero turn mower with zero percent financing, I have consistently made my payments beyond the required amount and before the due date. They applied those payments during the same billing cycle and then charged me late fees!!! I called them about this and they told me that as long as they didn't receive the payment before a certain date, then I would not be assessed a late fee. I followed the guidance given, then I was assessed another late fee because they received my payment to early!! I called again and spoke with a representative who said she would remove the late fee and told me a different date for the billing cycle. This month's statement showed that she never removed the late fee and did not fix the discrepancy and I was charged another late fee. This is a horrible way to conduct business, especially if a company wants repeat customers!!!!!
Jonathan S

MTD Products Response • Oct 09, 2019

We apologize for the confusion. TD Bank is the finance company we use. We will be happy to provide you with their contact information. if needed.

Less than one year after purchasing a Troy Bilt self-propelled push mower, it seized in the middle of my mow on its fourth use in its entire lifetime. I have a very small lawn (It takes approximately 15-20 minutes to mow). After it stopped in the middle of my mow, I checked the gas, checked the oil (both were full and clean). I could not figure out what happened. My neighbor, who is a mechanically-inclined attorney, came over and did some additional troubleshooting. He too checked the gas and checked the oil. After looking at the owner’s manual and watching a couple YouTube videos, there was clearly not an easy fix. Since it was under a year old, he suggested that I contact the manufacturer as it is covered under the warranty. Later that day, my boyfriend, an auto mechanic hobbyist, came home and he looked at the mower (he is also the one who put the mower together and added the briggs and stratton engine oil that the mower came with, etc only a few months prior). He checked the gas. And checked the oil. He said he had trouble reading the oil on the dipstick at first because the oil was so clear. He too, agreed, whatever caused the engine to seize would be covered under the warranty.
I contacted MTD, the manufacturer of Troy Bilt, and I was told that the only “repair shop” in my County that is contracted to work on their products for warranty defects is *** in Monroe, WA (approximately 30 miles away and 1 hour drive).
I do not have a truck so my neighbor drove me to drop off the mower at T&C. At that time, Micah, did a preliminary diagnosis and said that there was no compression and that it will more than likely be covered under the warranty. I paid my deposit and Micah also told me: “Do not call us, we will call you” upon dropping off mower. I never received a call back at all. After 3 weeks, I called and heard Mike’s “bad oil” scam. That might work on some people, but not me (and a brand new mower).

In an effort to avoid honoring the warranty on a brand new mower (less than 2 hour cumulative use in its entire lifetime), T&C REMOVED THE CLEAN OIL FROM MY NEW MOWER & REPLACED IT W/BLACK DIRTY OIL!!! I have 2 independent witnesses that saw the mower after it seized and checked the oil (as did I) prior to dropping it off at T&C. One being my neighbor that drove me to drop it off at T&C. Both witnesses commented on how clean the oil was.

There was no question in my mind that the store MTD required me to take my new mower to was engaging in fraudulent and deceptive business practices. A mechanic friend of mine took it apart for me and examined it. It was confirmed with 100% certainty that T&C removed the clean oil and replaced it with dirty oil. He noted that when rubbing his finger on the piston covered in dirty oil the clean metal shows through. This means that the clean oil was lubricating the compartment when the black oil was dumped in.

He found that the rod broke, which was more than likely a result of a crease in the manufacturer’s mould that created an imperfection that was bound to fail. He confirmed that it was a manufacturer's factory defect that should have been covered by the warranty.

The big question was, “Why would T&C scam me?!” Well, I also learned the repair shop receives a bonus or kickback from MTD for limiting the number of warranties it accepts.

When I contacted MTD, I was told “they [T&C] are our eyes and ears and we have to go off of what they tell us....”

The shop MTD required me to take my brand new mower to did not properly diagnose the issue, in fact, they did not even take it apart at all. All they did was drain the clean oil and replace it with dirty black oil.

MTD refused to honor their warranty and they directed me to take it to a shop that is corrupt and dishonest and motivated in their avoidance of honoring warranties.

I have the original receipt for my mower. I would like my money refunded and to return it.

MTD Products Response • Oct 02, 2019

Currently we are reviewing your request for reimbursement of the purchase of the Troy-Bilt lawnmower. Could you please provide us a copy of your receipt and also any documentation from the repair facility would be very helpful in this process.Sincerely,Melanie L.

Their customer service and warranty is trash. They lie about covering manufactuer errors. Any issue you have they will find a way to tell you its your fault and warranty doesnt cover it. Do not buy from them The mower shop even told them our drain plug had not been tampered with which means it was Sy craftsmanship and they still refused.

MTD Products Response • Sep 24, 2019

Please contact our customer service department. We will be happy to review the situation.

I purchased a Remington weed wacker and it stated I have a 2 year warranty. 1 year in weed wacker quite working. When I purchased the weed wacker new it highly recommended to use the premixed gas. I have ran nothing but the sunoco 40 to 1 premix. That is purchased at my location home improvement store. I took the weed wacker to one of their service centers that their wed site said to take it to. The service center contacted MTD for repair but denied the repair claiming I used straight fuel. I know for a fact I didn't because of the fact I did what the owners manual recommended of premix formulas. The refuse to make good on their warranty. I guess when a company gets so big the can just run over the consumer. I will never buy anything MTD again. And will take my business elsewhere if this is how Im going to be treated. I will start buying my stuff in the future from echo. MTD competition.

MTD Products Response • Sep 04, 2019

We have service centers evaluate the units and advise if the issue is repairable under warranty.

Per the service center it was raw fuel-dealer did as test and the gas in the carb and gas in the tank did NOT leave any residue but the dealers premix gas did.

The service center/dealer provides this information after evaluating the customers unit.

This is not covered under warranty.

Customer Response • Sep 04, 2019

I am rejecting this response because: The manual highly recommend the premix vs mixing yourself. The picture I have attached is all I have used in it. The service center told me it was MTD that was claiming this. And MTD told me the service center that made the claim. Blame game is all it is.

I have not use any other fuel mix than the picture I attached.

It is very clear they are trying to weasel out of backing their product. I used what they recommended in the manual. I even took the container to the service center and showed them what I used. The service center even told me, he does not know why they do this. He told me he sees to many repairs on what they recommend to use. I will never buy any MTD products again if this is how they throw their customers under the bus. And just think I was going to buy a new zero turn in the spring. Well not now. I will by else where. I have also noticed the products MTD carries are not as good as they use to be. Make cheap sell high cut corners to widen their profit. All about that mighty dollar at the customers expense. Well I will vote with my money and go else where. Shame on you MTD. But talking wont do any good.

I see a Bad Boy zero turn mower will be my option on a mower and echo for my weed wacker. What to keep me, fix it. If not bye, and I will spread the word on what happen here.

I guess It will take a class action lawsuit to fix this. Because I am sure they have done this to thousands of people. I guess I will go that route. Good day.

MTD Products Response • Sep 05, 2019

I do apologize for any inconvenience. The customer has the option for another evaluation at a service center.

If the evaluation again determines the issue is not covered under warranty we will not replace or cover repair for the unit. If the service center determines the issue is covered we will followup with repair or replacement.

below you will find a list of service centers in the customers area.

Customer Response • Sep 06, 2019

I am rejecting this response because: When I called MTD they told me the service center made the claim straight gas was ran through it. I called the service center this morning Friday September 6th. And again they said MTD is the one who said straight fuel was ran through. MTD is flat out lieing and has thrown the service center under the bus. I told the service center what MTD said and the service center said this isn't not true. I told the service center MTD through this complaint said to look at it again. He said he would call with the claim but was not happy with MTD lieing to me and the Revdex.com on who made the bogus gas claim. Again I have used only store bought premix 40 to 1 and the manual even says they highly recommend premix. I did some research and MTD has a tons of bad reviews on this very thing.

Last chance to make this right or lose a customer. again I have attached a picture of what I use.

MTD Products Response • Sep 09, 2019

I have emailed the customer with a request of the serial number and proof of purchase. Upon receipt of these - I can authorize a replacement unit to be sent to him.

Customer Response • Sep 11, 2019

I am rejecting this response because: I got an email from Melanie L and replied but have not gotten a response.
Melanie L.***

I am only doing this so Revdex.com doesn't close file while I wait for her Response.

I emailed her more pictures and info she asked for. And sent her pictures on how I got the weed wacker back from service

MTD Products Response • Sep 13, 2019

I have reached out to Mr. via email offering him a replacement triimmer.

Customer Response • Sep 13, 2019

Revdex.com:

I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID, and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me. They are replacing the weed wacker.

I purchased a snowblower made by this company, MTD that has plastic rims under recall due to the hazard of them exploding causing severe injury or death. I called the recall line to file my claim to recieve a new set of rims a d tires made of steel that do not explode. They refused to honor the recall, so I am still at risk of injury, so is anyone else whoever uses the unit in the future, or if I ever sell it. The model number of the machine was Craftsman by MTD model 247.88700 I have the serial number. They specifically refused the recall, because I made a claim in the past for my other snowblower for my other property. I own more than one, I just purchased the second unit. It has the rims that are at risk of exploding, I compared them to the first set they covered that I removed, their exactly the same. They said they flagged my unit so that I can never make the claim on it in the future. I am at risk of injury!
I would like a new set of rims and tires for my family and I's Personal safety as well as othere around!

MTD Products Response • Aug 28, 2019

The claim was denied because the unit the customer filed the claim on a unit that is not under the recall.

The unit was not manufactured during the dates effected.

This was explained to the customer 8/27/19.

Thank you

Teri

Customer Response • Aug 28, 2019

I am rejecting this response because: That response is incorrect and false. All Craftsman Snowblowers with the model 247.88700 (aka MTD model 31AS3AAD799) are under recall. Every single serial for that model is under recall. Their are no Sears Craftsman Model 247.88700 that were built prior to the affected date. This can be proven with a simple verification from Sears who never recieved a model 247.88700 in 2003, all 27.88700 are from 2004 and up. If you enter model 247.88700 aka MTD model 31AS3AAD799) as the MTD model into tye MTD owners section of the MTD website even without a serial tye owners manuals all pop with the recall notice, saying the tires on Craftsman model 247.88700 (aka 31AS3AAD799) are under recall, because they all are. I believe this women is attempting to use my other unit as the reason for denial, which was not under recall, but my Sears unit is. Also I can also verify this by the date of manufacture of the 5 horsepower Tecumseh snowking engine on the unit which is 4267D stating it was built in 2004 on 267th day. With all of that information, it is clear to me that MTD, modern tool and die, holds no regard for the safety of their consumers and will freely allow customers to use equipment that can and has injured 16 individuals to date to go without fulfilling their obligation to adhere to the recall that was put into action. MTD is more concerned with their bottom line and with holding rims and tires that probably only cost them 50 dollars, vs the safety of the consumer. The denial of the recall to model 247.88700 (31AS3AAD799) has been noted, since all of that model is on the effected recall, none arent. Other agencies and firm's will be notified of this fact and it is on record. If something occurs where that snowblowers tire explodes or fails causing injury or death to me or anyone else, now or in the future, this will serve as a record, that the blower was allowed to knowingly stay out with the effected plastic rims denied by the company which are indeed under the recall. CPSC notification 8-29-2019+

MTD Products Response • Sep 04, 2019

As a resolution and customer satisfaction this order has been approved as a one time courtesy. The customer can call in and place order referencing case number ***.

Customer Response • Sep 04, 2019

Revdex.com:

I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID, and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me.

I called in and was granted the set of rims and tires to replace the old plastic ones under recall. They are on their way. Confirmation number CD***. 9/4/2019

Purchased Craftsman T130 from ***, had unit delivered with scratches on it, was advised that's how they received from manufacturer. Used it to mow lawn a handful of times. when I hit about 4.5hrs on the motor it started to smoke profusely when starting. sent in for service, service center said oil was overfilled from factory and had to replace seal on front of motor and potential motor damage (piston seals). still smoked upon receiving unit back. Unit is back at shop now for possible motor issue since it still smoked profusely after starting but shop couldn't find the source, so they said I need to take it back how it is. They are on vacation this week, so I have to wait until next week for them to deliver it back to me. purchased middle of April. didn't even last a full season. tried contacting Craftsman (MTD) via phone and Twitter. phone support said I have to pay to bring it to the shop (which I did, $30 + paying someone else to mow while I'm without my mower). they stated they could not assist further after I received it back from shop still damaged. online support (Twitter) gave me the same phone number to call, then gave me an email address that wasn't even for the right department. they asked for my email address on August 5th so they could "have someone contact me right away". I asked yesterday (August 13th) why I haven't been contacted yet, and today I was asked again for my email address, when it was written right above their message. they aren't reading the message, just stalling to finish up the 12 month warranty. *** told me that because I didn't buy a warranty on day one, if I tried to purchase one when I had the problem (when unit was less than 3 months old), it would be significantly more money. I will not be making any future Craftsman (MTD) purchases, as well as *** purchases, as I have not been able to get in contact with anyone with the ability to issue RMA to allowed me to replace the unit.

MTD Products Response • Aug 15, 2019

We are currently working with the customer. He has reached out to us and we have responded to his emails. Currently his unit is at a local repair facility.

Case #

Customer Response • Aug 15, 2019

I am rejecting this response because:
I apologize but I do not accept this. Yes, i've emailed multiple times, but the only response I got was that the email address I reached out to is incorrect. I've contacted through twitter and was asked for my email address. I never received an email from that route, I asked what the status was to have management contact me, and they again asked for my email address. I have the store Twitter conversation as proof. I first reached out via twitter on July 22nd, as of today, they still told me to "please hold" and someone will contact me. It's been almost a month.

Yes, my mower is at a local repair facility, but they told me last week they could not determine the issue with the mower smoking from the exhaust and I would have to take it back as is. They then went on vacation before bringing the mower back to me. So i'm STUCK without my mower because the company took a vacation while working on it. I would like this unit RMA'd and receive a replacement. The service center already told me I would have to take it back as is and if it gets worse, they would pick it back up and I would get ANOTHER $30 fee to have it transported because I do not own a truck and trailer. Soon we will be at the end of the season and when I start using it next year, the warranty will be expired. It appears that this is being stalled until the warranty expires. Please issue an RMA to have this unit replace. It barely had 4 hours of use before I started having the issue. The first time the unit was at repair, they told me it was completely overfilled with oil from the manufacturer (as it came delivered with oil already in it).

MTD Products Response • Aug 16, 2019

We are currently working with the customer / contacting the repair facility. Our process for returns would involve the retailer that the unit was purchased.

I purchased a new Troy Bilt zero turn mower in 2015, serial # 1A285H10062, Model #17ADCACT066. It was delivered through their outlet Lowes. Recently I had two flat tires on the front of the mower. I removed the two tires and took them to Americas Tire(A-T) for repair. The representative at A-T called the manufacturer of the tires, Carlisle Tire, and confirmed that the tires were actually manufactured in 2002. The A-T representative told me they could not patch the tire because they were over 10 years old. I would expect that maybe a 2014 tire would be on the mower when new, but these tires were already 15 years old when I bought the mower new in 2015. This would appear to be misrepresentation on the part of Troy Bilt/MTD. I am asking that I be supplied new tires that I can actually get repaired, even if they supply 2015 tires. The case number supplied to me by Troy Bilt is case# ***. None of these tire shops will repair a tire over 10 years old, and these tires were 13 years old when I purchased as represented as new.

MTD Products Response • Jul 29, 2019

Dear Mr. D;

Review of your complaint along with our notes under your case *** indicates the unit was purchased and utilized since 2015. The age of the tire has no bearing on the issue at hand, but rather sounds like the servicing center has a policy.

The issue at hand does not indicate a manufacturing defect. Tires are covered for 30 days from the date of purchase under the normal wear and tear warranty outlined within your owners manual.

We are sorry we could not provide support as previously discussed when you contacted our service department.

There are some cases where the consumer has purchased an extended warranty thru the retailer from which the unit was purchased. If you have done so, you may want to contact them directly to see what provisions/coverages they provided under that policy.

Sincerely,

Troy-Bilt Administrator

Customer Response • Jul 29, 2019

I am rejecting this response because: Even if the tires had gone flat 30 days after the I purchased the unit, no one would service or repair the tire because under DOT rules they can not service/repair a tire that is over ten years old. These tires were 13 years old when sold on a brand new mower. This has nothing to do with your 30 day policy, it has everything to do with the fact you sold me tires that can never be serviced because of the age. My complaint remains that you sold me tires I can never get serviced. I still request that you replace the two front tires with 2014 tires or newer so if future problems arise I can, at my own cost. at least get them repaired. I know it is against your policies to satisfy a complaint of this nature, but my complaint is valid.

MTD Products Response • Aug 01, 2019

Dear Mr. D;

We can appreciate your feedback, however, the question may need to be redirected. As we do not install tires during manufacturing with the age you are stating. We question who determined the age and how and even with the information claimed, you may want to bring that up with the place of purchase as we assure that is not how the unit came off the manufacturing line.

The tires are out of the limited 30 day warranty as outlined in your owner's manual, but more importantly, the information supplied does not coincide with our manufacturing process.

Sincerely,

Troy-Bilt Administrator.

Case

Customer Response • Aug 01, 2019

I am rejecting this response because: The Americas tire representative called the manufacturer of the tires and was told by the manufacturer based on the numbering on the tire that the tire was manufactured in 2002. Why would *** substitute tires on a new mower. My claim still stands.

Customer Response • Aug 05, 2019

The business thanks you for forwarding the
photos of the tires. They reached out directly to the supplier and below
is what they found out:The supplier states: The “L14” on the end/right-side of the code in your photo
is the key to determining the manufacturing date (applies to our OPE tires
only). The “letter” references the month and is sequentially coded “A”
through “L,” indicating the month of manufacture (i.e.: A = Jan, B=Feb, L=
Dec). The “number” is the year of manufacture. In this instance,
“L14” equates to December of 2014.

In March of 2019 we purchased a Bolens mower from ***. On 07/12 my husband started the mower and immediately a giant chunk of metal flew out of it and through our double pane window into the house. Upon inspection we realized it was a piece of the shaft that connected to the blade. We contacted MTD immediately to file a claim. The representative was very helpful and we submitted pictures of the metal piece and where it came from the mower. The rep submitted the case to risk management. 4 days later we got an email advising us to take the mower to a local shop for inspection. We did so on 07/18. We have called the shop many times since and never received an answer or call back. I called customer service on 07/23 and informed a rep that we haven’t heard anything and can’t get in touch with the shop. After placing me on hold for some time she came back and apologized, said it was an insane case, and that she was submitting another email to risk and would contact us each day to follow up. After 2 days of not hearing from her I called back and that re said there were no notations on the report and put me on hold for another 15 minutes to research and try to get in touch with the shop. I got disconnected during the hold and called back and asked to be transferred back to that rep. I was placed on another 10 minute hold and that rep came back saying that I should wait and hear from risk in the next 1-2 weeks. He then tried to contact the shop and said he couldn’t get in touch with them. He interrupted me multiple times and I did not feel he took the situation as seriously as he should have. I’ve had a hole in my window for 2 weeks now and no sign of getting it fixed anytime soon according to this rep. A month is a ridiculous time frame to put together a course of action.

MTD Products Response • Jul 29, 2019

Dear Mrs. D ***

We have been advised by our Risk Management group that you were contacted by our legal team on Friday, July 26th.

Sincerely,

Bolen's Administrator

Company keeps promising to replace defective hose on power washer that was used only 4 times. I have been in contact with them 6 times since June 21,2019 and one week I'm told it's been shipped then the following week I'm told it's on back order this has gone on since June 21,2019. Today July 19,2019 they told me that it has been upgraded to a tier #2 to see if if can get this replacement hose any faster. Thank you for any help Bruce

MTD Products Response • Jul 23, 2019

Dear Mr.;

Please be advised you contacted our office 07/19/2019 surrounding your Troy-Bilt Pressure Washer. It was at this time we informed you that the product in question is not manufactured by MTD Products and you were referred to the manufacturer Briggs & Stratton. This is the only contact we have on file under case 0497869.

Please contact Brigg's & Stratton directly at ***.

Sincerely,

MTD Products Administrator

Customer Response • Jul 23, 2019

Revdex.com:

I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID, and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me.

This tractor has been a Lemon since we got it. The first year the engine was replaced. We since have replaced plugs,drive belts,tires, the deck is falling off and won't run long enough to complete 1 lawn mowing. Much time and money have been put into this tractor that clearly is not a good product. It was a $3,000 mower twice what we pd for our craftsman that ran with no issue for 20 yrs. It has also caused much stress and $ worries after spending that much and do not have a mower that will run. I am submitting this for my husband who suffers depression and I am concerned for him. The owner of the business purchased from is the head of board for our county and Kreg works for *** and does not want to push it with them and lose his job. I finally got sick of this and submitted complaint with you. I have contacted both in the past with no luck.

MTD Products Response • Jul 16, 2019

Dear Mrs. E;

We have reviewed your issues at hand and have located your previous contact with our company which is attached along with our response to your complaint. To date the only information or communication with regards to your unit purchased on 07/05/2013 was with regards to your Kohler Engine failure on 09/12/2014 which Cub Cadet submitted to Kohler under their manufacturing warranty and was repaired and paid.

We have no additional reports of issues within the manufacturing warranty until your letter received in 2017 to which we responded and attached copies.

We are sorry to report that without substantiated records, contacts or otherwise within the warranty outlined in your manual, we are unable to provide additional support.

Sincerely,

Cub Cadet Administrator

Customer Response • Jul 16, 2019

I am rejecting this response because:You can only do what you can do but we did call the dealership and without paying them to pick up mower and pay for any repairs and pick up they would not look at it. I think something that expensive would last many years. I would think the company would also try to satisfy customers whtn they spend that much.

MTD Products Response • Jul 19, 2019

Dear Mrs. E;

We understand your position, and we hope you can understand ours. Your unit is six years old, it has experienced a engine related failure that was picked up and paid for by the manufacturer of the Engine under which it failed and is outlined in your warranty.

There are no other documented losses or contacts indicating you have experienced issues until 2017 at which time we responded. Your next communication comes two years later.

We do our best to provide a good customer experience, however, we also have limitations and reasonable expectations.

Sincerely,

Cub Cadet Administrator

Customer Response • Jul 20, 2019

I am rejecting this response because:
We will never buy anything Cub Cadet again and will try to spread the word about our mistake in investing and buying local. May as well have bought a better brand at an auction. I am sure we would have gotten many years use from it. Our Craftsman lasted 15 years with no trouble and cost much less.

I purchased the Bolen Model 11A-020W765 lawn mower on 8/24/2018. I used the lawnmower three times to cut my 10X12 back yard in 2018; I used the mower in April of 2019, when I went to use it in May, the mower would not start. My coworker and I checked the spark plugs, the gas, the oil and tried to start it again but it would not start, I took the mower to *** on 6/22/19 where I purchased it and they told me it was under a limited warranty and I would have to sen it out for repairs. I requested that I receive a call before any repairs were done and that I would not pay any charges since the mower was not a year old.
I received a call from *** on 9 July saying I needed to pay 87.78 to pick up my mower, the repair fee

MTD Products Response • Jul 12, 2019

Dear Ms. D;

Thank you for choosing Bolen's for your outdoor needs. We are sorry to hear you have experienced issues with your product. Please refer to your warranty outlined within your owners manual.

We have attached a copy of your owner's manual which holds a one year Manufacturing Warranty against defects in material and workmanship. Your engine carries a separate warranty.

Please respond with a copy of your Proof Of Purchase, Serial Number of the Unit a copy of the invoice incurred by your retailer for work performed.

Once we have reviewed the requested, we will be in a better position to provide additional insight.

Sincerely,

Bolen's Administrator

I ordered a lawnmower in June. If was delivered by UPS on June 28, 2019. It was missing a few necessary parts-gas cap and two wing nut adapter. When I called on the 28th, I was told he with send it out that day. I called on July 2nd and was told it with was given to UPS to be shipped today. I am upset as one of their workers promised me speedy service. Another one hung up when I asked to pay for overnight service. Now I am told it may arrive next week. No one should be treated with such rudeness. Service is lacking. They wanted to charge me $27 to ship UPS overnight but because of the holiday I won't get it til next week. Please investigate this issue. It wasn't my fault their warehouse worker sent me a lawnmower with missing parts. Meanwhile my grass is higher than my shin height.

MTD Products Response • Jul 09, 2019

Dear Mr.;

Thank you for choosing Troy-Bilt for your outdoor needs.

We were sorry to hear of the shortage coming out of our plant with regards to your purchase surrounding your unit. Our records indicate the missing reported were placed on a Friday after the cutoff time and unfortunately with the Holiday shortly thereafter played an affect on the receipt of the parts sent out at no charge.

Our records indicate the parts were delivered on Monday, July 8th at 10:52AM. Our records also indicate an additional request for part was placed on July 8th for a carriage screw and should be received within 5 to 7 business days. While we understand your frustrations, the parts ultimately ship out of a warehouse.

If you could please forward your invoices for lawn maintenance incurred as a result of our short coming, we will be happy to review for compensation.

Sincerely,

Troy-Bilt Administrator

Customer Response • Jul 09, 2019

Revdex.com:

I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID, and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me.

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