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The worst insurance company that I had to deal with in my live! Blood sucking company.
Martin, I'm sorry to hear this. Can you send your policy number and contact information to [email protected] so that I can look into this for you? Thank you. --Paige
I have been a customer of Ameriprise for the last 3 to 4 years. We have both Auto and Home insurance from them and we have not had a single claim. They were recommended through *** and since we trust *** always puts it members first, we decided to stay with them despite price increases year after year. My original policy with them for Home insurance was $1525.00 and it covered everything for dwelling and personal property at Replacement Cost and a deductible of $2000. Late last year they changed my policy with an increased my premium to $1768.00 and added a clause for Roof Coverage at Actual Cash Value. The replacement cost of the dwelling stayed consistent as the original policy written in 2015 by Ameriprise. As an end consumer I do not know this difference between Replacement and ACV. The only consent I gave them was to increase my deductible to $2500 to reduce my yearly premium. This year when I have had my first ever home claim (I have been a home owner for 13 years), I realized that they had scammed me by adding the clause for the roof (ACV Only) that did not exist on the original policy. I am so upset I trusted a company that was recommended by ***.
Thank you for sending the complaint filed by Ms. ***, which we received on February 11,2019. We understand that she would like a detailed explanation surrounding the change in the roofcoverage. We appreciate the opportunity to respond.We have changed the roof coverage we offer for windstorm and hail losses. Based on the age of the roof,the windstorm and hail roof coverage for the policy renewal beginning August 11, 2018, was Actual CashValue.On June 28, 2018, we mailed the August 11, 2018, to August 11, 2019, renewal offer to Ms..Included in the renewal package was a notice of policy change. The notice states, “How We DetermineSettlement of Roof Losses Has Changed. We understand that protecting your property may be one of yourtop priorities. We want to make you aware of an important change to your policy. Due to the age of yourroof, the Actual Cash Value Settlement for Windstorm or Hail Losses to Roof Surface Endorsement hasbeen added to your policy. This endorsement is automatically added to policies when the age of the roofreaches a certain threshold. Simply put, Actual Cash Value means that, in the event of a covered loss, theamount we pay you may be reduced because of your roof’s wear and tear, deterioration or obsolescence.For a more complete definition, see the endorsement. We have adjusted your premium accordingly;please see your declaration page for details.”The notice also states, “for an additional cost, you may be able to upgrade to replacement cost coveragefor these losses.”The declaration page included in the renewal offer also indicated that the windstorm and hail roofcoverage is Actual Cash Value.Our policy booklet, which outlines our coverage agreement with Ms., states “We agree with you,in return for your premium payment, to provide insurance subject to all the terms of this policy. Thecoverages provided, the limits of our liability and the premiums are shown in the declarations of thispolicy.”On September 11, 2018, we received payment for the renewal policy, which is acceptance of our renewaloffer.We did not receive a request from Ms. to upgrade her coverage prior to her loss occurring,therefore replacement cost coverage will not extend to this loss, we respectfully maintain that we properlynotified Ms. of the coverage provided under her home policy.If you have any questions about this information, you may contact me at , Option *.
My daughter was involved in a motor vehicle accident. 12/18/2018. other driver was not paying attention, texting on the phone and hit my daughter on the passenger side. no major damage or physical injuries to anybody. two young drivers, two ladies.
this insurance company is not taking full responsibility of the damages caused by her customer/driver. making me responsible for 20% cost of total damages. my daughter car was not moving, came to a full stop at a signal light when she got struck by the other young driver. there was not a quote or vehicle inspection from anybody, no agent or broker came to see the damages on my car, not even a telephone call to make sure that all drivers were safe. no insurance adjuster was present to determine if it can be repair and the damaged to the vehicle. now the insurance company made the decision to only pay 80% total cost to repair the damages. how do they make this decision. my daughter is under age and her statement was clear that she was not even moving when the other driver hit her. this is not the way to do business with anybody. terrible customer service, horrible outcome and not the legal or right way to come to a final decision.
Thank you for sending the complaint filed by Mr. ***, which we received on February 8,2019. We understand that he disagrees with our determination of liability. We appreciate the opportunityto respond.Mr.’s daughter, ***, was involved in an accident with our insured driver onDecember 16, 2018. Our investigation included obtaining statements from both drivers. Ms.stated that she was traveling on *** Street, which has one lane in each direction. She explained that shewas looking straight ahead, traveling in her lane when our insured driver merged into her lane and struckher vehicle. She advised she did not see our insured’s vehicle prior to impact. The point of impact to hervehicle was the right side of the front bumper and the fender. The point of impact to our insured’s vehiclewas to the left side rear door and quarter panel.Our insured driver stated that she was traveling on 175th Street. She was traveling in the right lane andwas going to switch lanes to the left. Ms. was traveling in the left lane. Our insured merged intothe left lane, as the right lane was ending, and struck Ms.’s vehicle in the right fender area withthe left quarter panel area of her vehicle.We have accepted 80% liability for the accident based on our insured driver making an unsafe lanechange; however, the representative did determine that Ms. was 20% liable for the loss due toher failure to see our insured’s vehicle moving into her lane as the point of impact to the vehiclesindicates that she should have seen our vehicle.We received an estimate in the amount of $1,847.07 for the damages to Ms.’s vehicle and wehave issued a payment for 80% of this amount or $1,477.65 on February 7, 2019.We trust we have addressed all the concerns, but if you have any questions about this information, youmay contact me at , Ext. ***.
We have completed our investigation, and as no new evidence has been presented, we stand by our decision.
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I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID, and have determined that this does not resolve my complaint. For your reference, details of the offer I reviewed appear below.
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There was never an investigation done by anybody except telephone statement done by an under age driver. no insurance agent was ever here to see evaluate the damage done to my vehicle. How can anybody do business like this company? there has to be something some one can do about this insurance company robbing customers the way they do.
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Ameriprise is by far the worst insurance company that I have ever dealt with I would not recommend this company to anyone, the simple fact that they are still in business is surprising to me, they have the worst customer service and after jumping thru all of their hoops and having perfect driving records they still want more information. Stay as far away from this company as possible unless you like misery in your life. I would rather pay more money for insurance from a reputable company than ever deal with this company again.
Scott, I'm sorry to hear your experience with us was not a positive one. I'd like to look into this. Can you send your quote or policy number and contact information to [email protected]? Thank you. ---Paige
Do not insure your car with Ameriprise. Adjusters don't want to pay for damages from a car accident and they told me to have things inspected at my own cost before they pay for them . Also they increased my premium 20 percent every year for 5 years, I had to switch insurace and I saved up about 40 percent with another insurance. I would given them zero stars if I could.
Joe, I'm sorry to hear this. I'd like to look into this for you. Can you send your policy number and contact information to [email protected]? Thank you---Paige
We were comparing insurance rates from Ameriprise as a Costco member. We were currently covered under *** for both our home and auto. Our renewal date was 1/18/19 for ***. We decided not to go with Ameriprise due to the poor followup and customer service we encountered even though they were $1000 less than ***. We were not confident that Ameriprise had our best interest as a customer. Frequent phone calls to get quotes and providing our information repeatedly when requested when they already had it from several calls before. We finally renewed with ***. We received a disturbing mailed letter that was written as if we had a policy with them and that we canceled the policy. We neither signed nor paid for their policy at anytime. They even copied our mortgage company. This practice implies that we prematurely canceled which would reflect negatively on our next renewal.
Francis, I would like to look into this for you. Can you send your quote number and contact information to [email protected]? Thank you--Paige
I am insured by Ameriprise. In Aug. 2018, I was in an accident. I was struck by a car making a left turn at a controlled intersection. That driver received a ticket. My car was totaled and I used my collision insurance coverage to quickly get the money I needed to buy a replacement vehicle.
The accident report states that I was not at fault, and his insurance company has repaid Ameriprise every penny it spent in this accident.
I have the same cars, drivers and coverage from when my policy renewed in Sept. 2018 @ $295 for six months.
I just got my renewal notice, it came with a 22% increase, $361 for six months. I called customer service and was told the increase was because of the accident. It is so unfair for Ameriprise to get all it's money back, and then increase my premium by that amount. They admit that I was not at fault, but that makes no difference. They said the rates are set by someone using actuarial charts. That if the accident was my fault or not doesn't matter.
What happened to common decency and far play?
Richard, I would like to look into this for you. Can you send your policy number and contact information to [email protected]? Thank you--Paige
You get what you pay for. Ameriprise has policies that differ from all major car insurance companies which are unfair and unorthodox. Ameriprise forces a spouse to be listed as a PRIMARY insurer, even if they have insurance else where. In my case, I have my son on my policy with USAA (USAA is amazing!!), and my husband has my step-son on his policy with Ameriprise. I understand "noting" that your spouse lives in your household, but forcing someone to be listed as a "primary" can greatly affect their insurance. As a family, we chose to keep our insurance separate--this should be our choice. But Ameriprise will not honor our decision and in doing so, I am now at risk for my insurance to increase if my step-son or husband has an accident. USAA did list my husband as a "member" but not as a primary - this company knows how to treat it's customers fairly, unlike Ameriprise.
Jennifer, I'd like to look into this. Can you send your policy number and contact information to [email protected]? Thank you---Paige
I was in a car accident where I was rear ended while sitting at a red light by someone who was high off drugs. It aggravated my pre-existing condition and I have spent the last 2 years of my life trying to recover. What's so HORRIBLE about my situation is Ameriprise refused to pay my PIP benefits and I had to hire an attorney. I have NEVER in the 40 years I have been driving EVER been in a car accident. Ameriprise Attorney hates the Black Neurosurgeon I'm seeing and is trying to force the court to waive my future medical claiming, "he's too expensive". SINCE WHEN DID AMERIPRISE OR THEIR REPRESENTATIVES HAVE THE RIGHT TO TELL A CUSTOMER WHAT OR WHICH DOCTORS TO USE? Absolutely terrible!
Joy, I'd like to look into this. Can you send your claim number and contact information to [email protected]? Thank you. --Paige
I called the company for insurance. I was advised they would send me an application which I never received. I had to call them back and have the application emailed. I completed the application as they stated was all I needed. I mailed the application which states the policy will be retro to the post marked date. I contact them a week later to find out they still have not made a decision and leaving me without vehicle insurance. I spoke to one representative who tells me it will take up to 3 days and then speak to another saying it will take 5 days. The worst experience from a insurance company and takes a company over a month to make a decision.
My car coverage is liability only. Rental agreement was not written either.
I was badly hit and run while parked. Nobody sees anything. I got police investigating.
Ameriprise - open 24 hours? but not on Sunday..
On Monday morning I spent 45 minutes to submit the report given to me by police - in our state it must to be submitted by insurance to DMV to avoid my driver's license voided. 3 customer reps were playing the ball with me until it was learned I need to open a claim case.. I was given a rep who handled my case.
The rep found (that's +1 star) that in our state the mandatory uninsured motorists coverage can be applicable in such a case. I was informed that the appraiser will contact me. That never happened in 48 hours.. The follow up call after 48 hours - the rep said she will send a follow up email to the appraiser.
Such time delay is costly. Such time delay without a car hurts.
The rep sent me their car rental prices. No reservation made. When I walked in to the car rental they said no reservation is made, no such rates are available and no car is available. I was forced to go to another rental to get a car that cost me a fortune (it will be different complaint). What was a point of claim rep to send me such rental rates? To inform me that Ameriprise have great rates negotiated?? How does that apply to me in such critical time?
Also, I was advised to get full coverage because my liability only won't cover the rental.
What a pathetic way to help a customer in critical need!
Also I declined any help from Ameriprise (see above - uninsured motorists coverage) because the rep was not sure how my rate will be affected and how much I will be punished next period.
Yes, it is a business. Yes, it must be profitable. But not in such way. Period.
Also, I am hurt - not physically but financially and emotionally.
And I begin to shop around. I will be gone after renewal. No more business with such coverage.
I'm so sorry your recent experience with us was not a positive one. I'd like to look into your situation. Can you send your policy number and contact information to [email protected]? Thank you. --Paige
If I could rate them -5 five stars I would. My daughter had an accident 10 months ago (her 1st one) and somehow this company tagged me as the one that caused the accident. Due to THEIR error my daughter got her license suspended bc they didn’t send the proper info to the the BMV stating that we paid the other drivers car repairs. They keep telling me that it’s fixed and they will send me the proper paperwork with the corrections so I can send it to my new insurance company but each time I call they STILL have me as the one that caused the accident. They won’t help me in any way! Stay away from this joke of a company. It’s NOT worth the headaches.
Jennifer, I'd like to look into this for you. Can you send your policy number and contact information to [email protected]? Thank you. ---Paige
On Nov 5, 2018, I called into Ameriprise Auto & Home Insurance to adjust my policy. The auto payment was scheduled to be made the next day, Nov 6. The rep on the phone confirmed that the payment would be collect and then adjusted and there was nothing on my end to do. I left the next day for travels and just returned today. During that time a letter was sent stating that my insurance would be canceled on Nov 21st, if I did not make a payment. Since I was aboard I didn't received the notification in time to contact the company before the 21st. When I called today to inquire why my payment wasn't received when I have auto pay and my credit card has a significant available balance. The rep inform me there was nothing that could be done because it is past the 21st, and that my policy is canceled. I requested to speak to a supervisor that explained to me that they have a different credit card number on file. Yet, I explained to her that my last payment was used with my new card and there was a credit added by Ameriprise to the same credit card on the 6th of Nov. I also stated that I updated my account with the new number some time ago. The supervisor told me that there's no record of the update, but if she received verification from the bank that my current card was valid and that a charge was attempted my policy would be reinstated. We completed a conference call with my financial institution and the rep confirmed that last payment was charged to my current card and there was a credit added to the same card. It was also confirmed that there was no attempted to charged my credit card on November 6th by Ameriprise, and that there would have been recorded of the transaction on the old card as well. After the verification requested by the supervisor was received, I was then left on a few long periods of hold. When the supervisor returned she confirmed she received what was needed but refused to reinstate my auto insurance policy. I disputed that decision and asked for future explanation. She just reported that they have no recorded on the card on file being updated and that was their decision to make. I explained that it was clearly an error on their end and that I expected a resolution. I've been a loyal cumber for some time and have never had an issue with my payments in the past. If I hadn't been out of the country I would have been able to address the concern sooner. I also stated that I did not received a call or an email out the billing issue. I expressed my frustration and stated that I have not received the great customer serviced expected or fair resolution. I expected more from this company! I feel I was mistreated, my time was wasted and I treated with bias. My policy should NOT have been canceled!
Dear Ms.:Thank you for sending the complaint filed by Ms. ***, which we received on November28, 2018. We understand that she would like a more detailed explanation of why the policy was canceled.We appreciate the opportunity to address her concerns.• On September 1, 2018, we mailed the renewal offer to Ms., which included policydocuments and a billing notice (that indicated $873 would be charged to the Visa credit cardending in 3543), on November 6, 2018.• On November 5, 2018, Ms. changed the coverage on the 2006 Nissan Murano whichresulted in a premium decrease. We advised Ms. that the original renewal amount of$873 would be withdrawn and then once that charge has cleared, she would receive a refund inthe amount of $175.30. We did not receive a request to change the credit card on file.• On November 6, 2018, we attempted to charge $873 to the Visa ending in 3543. The charge wasdeclined.• On November 6, 2018, we mailed a notice of pending cancellation to the address on file for Ms., explaining that we would need payment in the amount of $699.50 by 12:01 a.m. onNovember 21, 2018.• On November 7, 2018, an automated call was made requesting that Ms. contact usregarding her policy.• We did not receive payment, so the policy canceled for nonpayment at 12:01 a.m. on November21, 2018.• On November 27, 2018, we mailed a notice of cancellation, explaining that the policy canceledon November 21, 2018, for nonpayment of premium. We also mailed an outstanding balancenotification indicating that $57.96 was owed.• On November 27, 2018, Ms. contacted us to request policy reinstatement. We deniedthe request because there was a lapse in coverage and break in the contract when the policycanceled for nonpayment of premium.We understand this is not the outcome Ms. would like; however, after our review of the factsof the matter, we respectfully maintain our decision to not reinstate the policy.If you have any questions about this information, you may contact me at , Option *.Sincerely,***
***Compliance Complaint AnalystIDS Property Casualty Insurance CompanyAmeriprise Auto & Home Insurance
I have been a customer for 7 + years and I received a notice of cancellation from this company for one missed payment. When I called them they stated that they had the wrong expiration date 2018 vs. 2019 and the card I had used for years had expired. Although the card in my pocket has always had 2019. They have now cancelled the insurance on all 3 of my family vehicles and stated it can’t be reinstated. I need my insurance reinstated due to a system issue in their system. No other contact was made. The notice was dated 11/16 for a ineffective date of 11/10. So I have been driving with no insurance without proper notification.
Dear Ms.:Thank you for sending the complaint filed by Mr. ***, which we received on November 21,2018. We understand that he would like a more detailed explanation of why the policy was canceled. Weappreciate the opportunity to address his concerns.On June 13, 2018, we mailed the renewal offer to Mr., which included policy documents and abilling notice (that indicated $259.12 would be charged to the Visa credit card ending in 2405, expiringSeptember 2018), on July 26, 2018. The billing notice also stated “If this is your renewal, the 6-monthpremium will be billed in five equal installments. The first installment will be charged/withdrawn on yourrenewal date.”Monthly installments were successfully charged on July 26, August 26 and September 26.On October 26, 2018, we attempted to charge $259.13 to the Visa ending in 2405. The charge wasdeclined.On October 26, 2018, we mailed a notice of pending cancellation to the address on file for Mr.,explaining that we would need payment in the amount of $598.66 by 12:01 a.m. on November 10, 2018.We did not receive payment, so the policy canceled for nonpayment at 12:01 a.m. on November 10, 2018.On November 16, 2018, we mailed a notice of cancellation, explaining that the policy canceled onNovember 10, 2018, for nonpayment of premium.On November 19, 2018, Mr. contacted our Policyholder Services department to request policyreinstatement. We denied the request because there was a lapse in coverage and break in the contractwhen the policy canceled for nonpayment of premium.Upon review, we agreed to offer reinstatement of Mr.’s policy.On November 21, 2018, we contacted Mr. and reinstated the policy effective November 10,2018.If you have any questions about this information, you may contact me at , Option *.
Wasted an hour filling thier online form to end with a message that they dont offer insurance as I have a fir-place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for sharing your feedback with us. We apologize that you found out you were ineligible for coverage after you had already spent so much time filling out our online form. We are currently revising the online form so that information that deems you ineligible will be requested much earlier in the process--that way, situations like yours won't happen again.
I was rear ended on the HWY by one of IDS insured on the 28th of Sept. It is now November 2nd, and they still have yet to determine liability. I suffered multiple injuries and have had to pay out of pocket for medical and rental car. This has been the worst experience I have ever had with an insurance company. The adjuster assigned to the claim, Willie Michelle, is rude and very hard to understand.
Zoe, I'd like to look into this for you. Can you send your claim number and contact information to ***@***? Thank you! --Paige
We have a claim into Ameriprise for a home repair issue. We are going on four months without a kitchen, and Ameriprise has been incredibly uncommunicative. We are looking for a fair settlement and Ameriprise refuses to allow us to access a supervisor or even discuss the situation further.
Here is a summary:
We submitted a claim on June 26, four months ago, and have been without a kitchen ever since. A leak behind the refrigerator resulted in having to tear the kitchen down to the bare four walls, and remove the buckled hardwood floor throughout the downstairs.
Our latest reimbursement from Ameriprise comes in approximately $12,000 short.
We have found and noted a number of errors by the second investigator, and have difficulty understanding why we continue to be stonewalled on this matter by Ameriprise and their representatives.
At issue:
Hardwood flooring replacement. The original floor was sent to Itel for an impartial forensic analysis and replacement value. This flooring was evaluated at over $18 per sq. ft., plus installation. The estimate paid by Ameriprise is only $6.92/sq. ft. (and included reimbursement for vinyl flooring, of which we had none), a difference of $4,878.01 on this project. Additionally, reimbursement did not include replacement of the baseboards, which also required removal and replacement as a part of this claim
Cabinet Replacement. The original cabinets were solid wood and required custom fitting to replace, as our kitchen contains unique angles. Our prior cabinetry was estimated to be of base custom quality totaling $11,917. The Ameriprise estimate recognizes our cabinets as only off-the-shelf fiberboard quality at $8,473. This results in a significant shortage of $3,444.
Countertop replacement. Tile replacement throughout the kitchen was required and came to 197 sq. feet. The Ameriprise estimate covered just a fraction of the replacement at 45.5 feet, apparently not taking into account the cooktop island or the sink/tile on a mini-bar that needed to be replaced , as well a backsplash and window areas. A difference of $1,437.01.
Paint. The square footage of painting required for the kitchen, dining room, (line of sight) living room and hallway was listed in error. The actual square footage of painting in our kitchen is 615 square feet, while AAN recognized only 355 sq. feet. The painting shortage for entire project is $621.
There are other discrepancies: ½” particle board instead of ¾” for the subfloor ($1,476.78 difference), replacement insulation (8 sq feet vs. 209 actual) $377.87 variance. All of these are significant and easily understandable. Certainly, they should be easily noted and corrected. I do not understand how a trained professional, utilizing the Xacitmate platform (as did our contractor), would create such a substantial difference. The items noted above, by themselves, total a variance of $12,234.67.
We are looking for a fair settlement to restore our home to like kind and quality, nothing more.
As we have been unable to resolve the matter fairly with Ameriprise after repeated attempts, we will be filing a complaint against Ameriprise with the California Department of Insurance, and likewise will be contacting senior management at both Ameriprise as well as Costco, and their associated social media sites.
Dear Ms.:Thank you for sending the complaint filed by Mr. ***, which we received on October 25,2018. We understand that he disagrees with our decision regarding the claim. We appreciate theopportunity to address his concerns.Mr. suffered water damage at his home, specifically in the kitchen. We inspected the damageand wrote an estimate to repair in the amount of $25,804.86 less recoverable depreciation of $8,982.68less the $1,000 policy deductible. Therefore, we paid the insureds $15,822.18 on July 25, 2018. OnAugust 15, 2018 we received a call from ***, also a named insured on the policy, stating manyitems were not included in the repair estimate. We agreed to arrange for a second inspection of thedamage to the home for the purpose of providing a comparable bid.Nexxus Solutions, *** Restoration, conducted the second inspection and submitted their estimate inthe amount of $41,766.37, therefore, on September 4, 2018 we sent our insureds an additional payment of$15,961.51.The insureds called on October 12, 2018 to say they do not agree with the estimate of ***Restoration and it is their opinion that items were underestimated. We explained that we have inspectedthe damage on two occasions and are confident that we have correctly appraised the damage. In addition,we provided the insureds with the Appraisal Clause language in their policy which explains their rightsand steps to take to resolve differences such as this. The policy says the following:AppraisalIf you and we fail to agree on the actual cash value or amount of loss, eitherparty may make written demand for an appraisal. Each party will select anappraiser and notify the other of the appraiser's identity within 20 days afterthe demand is received. The appraisers will select a competent and impartialumpire. If the appraisers are unable to agree upon an umpire within 15 days,you or we can ask a judge of a court of record in the state where the residencepremises is located to select an umpire.The appraisers shall then appraise the loss, stating separately the actual cashvalue and loss to each item. If the appraisers submit a written report of anagreement to us, the amount agreed upon shall be the actual cash value oramount of loss. If they cannot agree, they will submit their differences to theumpire. A written award by two will determine the actual cash value oramount of loss.Each party will pay the appraiser it chooses, and equally pay expenses for theumpire and all other expenses of the appraisal.The insureds were also notified of the Appraisal clause in writing and we explained that to proceed withthe appraisal process, we need a written request from them, along with the name, address and telephonenumber of the appraiser they select. As of the date of this letter, we have not received the insureds’request.In his letter to you, Mr. highlights some areas of concern as follows:Wood floor:Our estimate does not include any vinyl flooring. The coding for the underlayment is the same as vinylflooring, however, the line item is not vinyl, but rather it is actually ½” particle board which is what theinsured had when the loss occurred.The original floor was sent to ITEL for an impartial forensic analysis and replacement value. The price,with labor, to replace the wood flooring is $23.94 per square foot. This is the same amount allowed onboth the *** estimate and the insured’s contractor estimate. Therefore, there is not disagreementregarding the pricing of the hardwood.There is, however, a discrepancy in the measurement of the affected areas. The insured’s contractor bidallowed for removal and replacement of the hardwood in rooms where the wood had already beenremoved. The flooring in the kitchen and dining room was removed by the mitigation company and thecost to remove the wood flooring was included in the mitigation estimate. Therefore, this charge cannotbe assessed again. In addition, the square footage measurements of the rooms used by the contractor arenot accurate as he calculated wood floor for the entire space without a deduction for those areascontaining cabinetry. The contractor bid is in the amount of $19,459.76 and our competitive bid is$14,581.75, plus the ½” particle board (coded inaccurately as vinyl flooring) of $892.40, for a total$15,474.15. Thus, the difference in our bid and the contractor bid is $3,985.61.Further review shows that the contractor bid includes $3,682.45 for fir plywood subfloor to be used as theunderlayment under the hardwood floor. However, the underlayment the insured had is not fir plywood,rather it is ½ particle board which is what our estimate includes. When this allowance is deducted fromthe difference, the remaining difference in the estimates is $303.16 which is the result of the additionalsquare footage the contractor assessed by not deducting for the presence of cabinets on the floor.Baseboards:Our comparable bid included baseboards in the kitchen, dining room and the entry/stairs and hallwayareas.Cabinets:The cabinets in the insured home at the time of the loss were not custom-built cabinets. We have procureda bid that allows for replacement of what the insured had in the home, that being average grade plywoodor particleboard of box construction with simulated wood grain veneer on the interior. The doors anddrawer fronts were face frames of hardwood or paint-grade construction with a veneer or plywood toekick. The hardware consisted of concealed hinges and side mount drawer hardware. Our photos confirmthis information. In addition, the contractor’s layout of the cabinets is inaccurate. Countertops:There is a $644.86 price difference in the compatible bid and the contractor bid as our bid is for 76 squarefeet of tile countertop or $2,151.24 and the contractor bid is for 197 square feet at a cost of $2,796.10.The contractor overestimated the countertop tile. The window sill tile comparable bid includes 12.1 linearfeet or $201.83 while the contractor bid shows 58.78 feet, or $583.48. Our bid has the square feet neededto replace what was on the lower cabinets and the kitchen island, which is primarily a cooktop.The *** estimate takes into the island and the mini bar tile is accounted for in the hallway (sub roomof entry).Paint:The square footage for painting from the contractor and our bid is different. This difference is 61.91square feet for the kitchen. The contractor is painting the walls/ceiling at 2 colors, and our bid is to sealand paint the walls. There is a 200.68 square foot difference in the painting of the dining room. Again, thecontractor is painting the walls/ceiling at 2 colors, and our bid is to seal and paint the walls, which is whatis owed. We have also allowed for the painting of living room walls as the wall continues from the diningroom. However, we did deduct for windows, cabinets, doorways and missing walls and the contractor didnot remove those areas.In a recent conversation with Mr., we agreed to employ a cabinet specialist to inspect thecabinets so as to confirm we have the correct grade, etc. In our attempt to inspect these cabinets by thecabinet expert, we learned that the cabinets have been removed and discarded, therefore, we are unable tophysically inspect them. Instead, we have requested that the cabinet specialist review the photographs ofthe cabinets and provide an expert opinion.If you have any questions about this information, you may contact me at , Ext. ***.Sincerely,***IDS Property Casualty Insurance CompanyAmeriprise Auto & Home Insurance
Thank you.
As no new points have been brought up in this compliant situation, we will not be formally responding with the Revdex.com.
Please contact the claims adjuster directly.
Thank you
Revdex.com:
I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID, and have determined that this does not resolve my complaint. For your reference, details of the offer I reviewed appear below.
Re: Ameriprise policy # ***
We appreciate the time and effort that Ameriprise has put into rebutting the actual costs of restoration vs. the theoretical estimates, and can understand the difficulty that Ameriprise must face in attempting to get accurate information from thousands of miles away.
We recognize that having lived without a kitchen and dining room for five months, we are intimately aware of the elements involved and the errors that have been made in the assessment of our kitchen restoration by Ameriprise.
There have been a number of phone calls and email communications on this claim since June, and yet, even as the discrepancies become plainly apparent, Ameriprise and their agents never once contact our contractor to get a boots-on-the-ground assessment of the situation. It was many months and phone calls later that they even looked at the original estimate from contractor Brian ***.
That being said, there are several things that we agree on. One is the measurements of the area affected that was made by the first on-site adjuster. Tab #1 of the attached spreadsheet closely mirrors the measurements developed independently by Mr.. The second estimate, by ***, appears to have come up with a square footage estimate (at 537.59) that is 69.02 fewer square feet than the 606.61 quoted in both the *** and Bid #1.
In regard to the subfloor, and this really appears to be pretty simple to me, is the discrepancy in the composition of the subflooring. The original subflooring was plywood, not particleboard as Ameriprise has maintained. I know because we have photos that (1) show plywood and (2) our family was forced to use it as our only flooring for several months.
Plain and simple, this glaring discrepancy should be easy to recognize and fix.
A major point of disagreement continues to be the grade of the cabinets which were removed and discarded, which I assumed was standard procedure at the time. In any case, they did not “disappear”.
The quote from *** and Bid #1 are similar in terms of the footage of the cabinets. The 5-Star bid is ~4 feet less, which would be the wet bar cabinet unit that they appear of have missed in their estimate.
Mr., in his rebuttal, made mention that the cabinets were plywood frame with solid wood doors.
In my checking of local cabinet suppliers, I have come to learn that custom cabinets, such as those originally installed at our home, have the box area that is almost universally constructed of plywood, to mitigate the issues of warping. Non-custom cabinets, by contrast, are designing exclusively of fiberboard, which was not the case with our original cabinets.
Our kitchen area, as seen in all three bid diagrams, has a number of unique angles that require custom build and installation for the cabinetry. Additionally, the large kitchen windows on the southwest wall required a special custom build to allow them to fit under the window sill. In any event, in subsequent conversations, I have learned that in Northern California, it is impossible to get a base-grade custom cabinet for under $300 /ft, again a major discrepancy with what *** and Ameriprise is estimated for replacement.
On tab #3, the measurements for tile do not appear to be in agreement. *** Construction has twice the square footage at roughly half the unit cost. There is a difference of several hundred dollars, the biggest discrepancy here appears to be the bullnose that *** ($583.48) and Bid #1 (958.75) both included.
Other misestimates and errors were made by both adjusters:
· The first adjuster denied that there was an island area in the kitchen, in spite of significant evidence (wiring, vents, a large hole in the subfloor and photographs of the original area) to the contrary.
· The second adjuster, while able to identify the island, neglected to include the downdraft under the cook top area. *** Construction did include the $777 required to put the cook top functionality back to its original condition.
· In painting the walls for contiguous line-of-site coverage, it was impossible to properly match the 1980’s vintage color, which has faded over the years. This required repainting of the kitchen, living door, dining room, family room, stairs, and hallway to put return our home to the original condition, as is required by our Ameriprise homeowner's policy.
Through all of this, Ameriprise and several of its agents and supervisors have steadfastly refused to work in our best interest. Phone calls go unreturned, we been handed off to several different agents to assist with our claim, each has refused to give us a name and contact for their superior. Much to my amazement, our contractor, who knows this project best, has been completely sidestepped during the process.
This is not an insignificant difference in the amount of reimbursement, and it is based on a series of errors that are easily understandable, by anyone, except apparently, Ameriprise.
Our policy states that “We (Ameriprise) will pay the full cost to repair or replace the damaged part of the dwelling or other structure with equivalent construction, without deduction for depreciation.” We are looking for nothing more and will settle for nothing less.
To that end we are looking to file a claim with the California Dept. of Insurance and are exploring our legal options with a goal of a fair and just settlement that returns our home to its original condition.
Regards
On 9/17/18 a claim was opened for flooding in my home due to a leak in AC unit. Restoration has come out and dried out areas and insurance adjust has come out on 9/29 to review. I have called my agent *** and his *** via email and phone 7 times with no responses in the past 3 weeks. In the mean time my AC unit is still leaking and my family is still walking around on concrete in our home. Due to allergies we have had to pull up the wet carpet our self. I have talked to *** in the IT dept by mistake who has tried to reach out to several ***s in the claim area and all he received was voicemails.
Thank you for sending the complaint filed by ***, which we received on October 10, 2018.We appreciate the opportunity to address her concerns.On September 17, 2018 Ms. reported to us that her air conditioner unit was leaking and causingdamage to her home. We contacted the insured the same day, explained the claims process, and advisedan appraiser would be assigned to inspect and appraise the damage.Ms. called us on October 8 and 9, 2018 and to explain that she was dissatisfied with the handlingof her claim. On October 9, 2018 we contacted the insured to discuss the scope of her damages and theappraisal written to repair her home. We explained to Ms. that if additional damage wasdiscovered, we will need to receive an itemized estimate as well as supporting photographs. In addition,we advised her that the failure of her air conditioner was not caused by a peril covered under herhomeowner policy, therefore, we cannot reimburse her the cost of the unit. We sent payment to *** and *** in the amount of $1,855.70, less the $500 policy deductible or $1,355.70 onOctober 9, 2018.We are committed to providing best in class service to our clients and therefore, we have forwarded Ms. comments regarding her claim experience to our Claims leaders to use as a training opportunity.If you have any questions about this information, you may contact me at , Ext. ***.
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No response is needed as the client advised: At this time my questions have been answered.
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I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID, and find that this resolution is satisfactory to me at this time.
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July 10 of 2018 my vehicle was hit while it was parked I put in a claim with Ameriprise auto insurance. The claim adjuster they gave me her name was ***. Wasn’t able to get my truck fixed for almost 3 weeks to a month because *** requested verification of my address. I faxed in a note arise lease in a bank statement. I was told by her that that wasn’t enough because she took it upon herself to contact the building management. To verify if I reside there at the address. He confirmed that I did reside at the address but he also made her aware that he was no longer the proprietor of the property. So she took that and ran with it and justified that I didn’t verify my address and close my claim. And requested that I send her over proof of utility bill. I contacted her which every conversation is recorded I left you a voice message and I felt that I was being harassed and I felt like I gave more than enough documentation to prove my address so I was not sending the utility bill. Less than a half an hour later *** emails me a cancellation of my claim for my truck not to get repaired by the body shop and her reasons were because I didn’t send her the utility bill. So I contacted customer service at Ameriprise and requested to speak to a supervisor over her and claims which I did she gave me a fax number I didn’t send the utility bill to her as well as *** and the supervisor reopen my claim I requested not to have *** be my claim adjuster no more because of everything she put me through but they still have me deal with her anyway so I did. Now we’re well into August and because of all of this my truck didn’t get fixed until the second or third week into August 2018 because of ***. So now after my truck gets fixed all of a sudden I get a letter from Ameriprise stating that I have a address change as of August 8 of 2018. I never requested for address change when I contact them to ask them who request for address change the whole change my address couldn’t get no answer. So I paid my August to September’s bill and canceled on September 26 of 2018. August September bill was paid in full on line on my account it shows the original address amount and policy dates so what I don’t understand is how do I have a remainder balance of $330.71. So when I called Ameriprise to find out the reason why there is skews was due to the address changed on August 8 of 2018. So my question to them is why doesn’t it not reflect that on line on my account which I have access to which shows me something clearly different as far as the information goes but has a balance that they can’t justify or explain how but want me to pay. They keep on giving me excuses trying to justify that balance that I do not owe. There is a contradiction here is because if I verified my address with the supervisor in order for my claim to go through that means I show proof of address so Ameriprise should be back dating my insurance policy that should reflect that after I made set August to September’s payment. And because of all of this that I went through to the claims department I canceled my service with Ameriprise.
Thank you for sending the complaint filed by Ms. ***, which we received on October 02,2018. We understand that she is requesting to have her address corrected and premium adjusted. Weappreciate the opportunity to address her concerns.On August 08, 2018, per an address report ran, we updated Ms.’s address from ***
***, to ***. With making this change, we requiredproof of residency to change her address again.On October 02, 2018, prior to receiving this complaint, we reviewed the proof of residency provided todate, and changed Ms.’s address back to ***. This change wasmade effective August 08, 2018, which removed the outstanding balance from the policy and provided acredit to Ms..We left a message for Ms. to contact us to go over the changes made and the adjusted billing.However, we have not heard from her yet.If you have any questions about this information, you may contact me at , Option *.
claim# ***
The claim was declined on a ridiculous reasoning that the damage was caused by earthquake. There is no such things happened in the area around that period :-)
Thank you for sending the complaint filed by Mr. ***, which we received on October 1,2018. We understand that he disagrees with our decision regarding the claim. We appreciate theopportunity to address his concerns.Mr. reported to us that on January 22, 2017 he sustained damage to his living room tile floorsand he did not know what caused the damage. He told us that he heard a loud noise and noticed that 6ceramic tiles were cracked, and the flooring had a bulge running through it.We inspected the damage to his home and our expert determined that the cause of the floor damage wasmovement of the foundation of his home or movement of the surrounding earth. We explained to him thatthis cause of damage is excluded from coverage under his homeowner policy which reads:ExclusionsWe do not cover loss caused directly or indirectly by any of the following, whether or notany other cause or happening contributes concurrently or in any sequence to the loss:2. Earthquake including land shock waves or tremors before, during or aftervolcanic eruption, landslide, mudflow, earth sinking, rising or shifting. We docover direct loss that follows caused by fire, explosion, breakage of buildingglass, storm door or storm window glass or safety glazing material or theft.Mr. disagreed with our decision and we asked that he provide us documentation as to thecause of the damage. Neither he nor his contractor were able to identify the cause of the damage. Hiscontractor commented that there was a large crack from the garage to the front door and it may have beencaused by a pipe line, but he was unable to comment if this was a sudden loss or occurred over a period oftime.We were interested in paying Mr.’s claim, however, the damage must be the result of acovered cause of loss. The insured nor his contractor could provide us with such a cause and our expertopinion was that the cause was shifting of the ground or foundation which is not a covered cause of loss.We are hopeful that this information is helpful in understanding our actions, however, if there areremaining questions, please feel free to contact me at , Ext. ***.
As previously explained, the claim was denied based on shifting or movement of the earth or ground, not specifically earthquake.
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Revdex.com:
I have reviewed the response made by the business in reference to complaint ID, and have determined that this does not resolve my complaint. For your reference, details of the offer I reviewed appear below.
Insurer needs to provide some evidence for shifting or movement of the earth. The area doesn't have any sign such things. It sounds like speculation. Claim cannot be rejected by speculation.
It also appeared that the inspector who did the checking was a rookie and the insurer is trying to defend his observation that is not based on facts.
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