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Address: 4054 S Access Rd, Chattanooga, Tennessee, United States, 37406-1241
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We spent almost $10,000.00 having all new gutters put on our home and garage just two months ago. The roof is too steep for this type of gutter.
After having gutters placed on our home and garage at the cost of $10,000.00 we found out after the job was completed that the pitch on our roof is to steep for this type of gutter system. The rainwater runs directly over the gutters and onto the ground surrounding our home. Instead of just telling us that our roof was to steep Leafguard of Tennessee just went ahead and installed the gutters anyhow. we have filed at least three service calls to the company to try and take care of our problem but have been completely ignored without ever receiving a call.
If the gutters cannot be corrected we would like the entire amount of our money to be refunded so we can have a reputable company put the correct gutters on our home.
We completed a service today, and installed an accessory piece at the front at no charge, even though our contract notates its a charge. But due to Christmas, and we have team members on vacation, and we didnt expediently get to him due to Christmas, we installed at no charge. Customer was home today, service call is complete.
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They added a piece only on one small area of our home. This does not take care of the rest of the gutters. Do not worry about this I have accepted that I was taken advantage of and we will just have to deal with the problem. With the steep pitch on our roof this type of gutter does not work. They realized this and went ahead and installed the gutters anyhow. Thank you for your help...I DO NOT WANT this company on our property again. Live and Learn...Thanks
I have talked to Leaf Guard of Chattanooga 5 times since my gutters were installed in September. We have asked them to come out and look at the quality of work that has been done on our home of which we are very displeased. We were not at home when they were installed and upon returning home we were shocked at the job that they had completed. I also sent them by email some detailed pictures on November 19th of the work done and the representative of the company agreed with me and assured me they would send somebody out and make sure we were satisfied and they would call me the next day and would set up a time to repair the job. I have never heard another word from them. I payed them $1000.00 down and the salesmen set up an account with *** with a balance of $4990.00 and this account had a credit limit of $7200.00 on which Leaf Guard was the only one the credit could be used for. I feel like I am being avoided and the job is very tacky and my wife and I are very disappointed with this job.
Product_Or_Service: Guttering for my home.
Desired Settlement: Finish the job I want to be totally satisfied with this job or I want my money back in total.
Leaf Guard left me a message on the day of my complaint stating they would come by and look at my house but I didn't hear anything else from them until yesterday the 2nd. The representative told me he came by and looked and would send somebody else out to look at my house on Thursday the 9th. This is all I have I will follow up with the Revdex.com after they come out Thursday. Thanks so much for your assistance.
Yes we've made an appointment to go back to this customers house to button any concerns up.
failure to honor warranty.
have repeatedly not shown up on dates scheduled to service overflowing gutter without contact. Attempting to contact business results in ridiculous run around.
honor the warranty and arrive as scheduled.
we have left a message that a foreman will come out on Monday to address these issues
On August/31/2004, I bought the LeafGuard Gutter Tunnel Dual Filtration System, which was sold to me as a product that would never clog, or if it should, LeafGuard would clean it for free. It has become clogged and the gutters are overflowing and staining my white guttering. I contacted LeafGuard to report the problem and request they honor the warranty and clean out the clogged gutter. I was told that my name and address were not in their system. No problem, I emailed them copies of the invoice. Then I was asked to provide pictures of the gutters, which I did immediately. After several phone calls and emails, "" at the corporate office assured me that he would come to my home the next week. By the following Wednesday, I had not been notified of a day or time when *** would be at my home. I called and reminded him of his promise and was told he would be at my home on Friday, October 11 after 2 pm. He did not come, did not phone or email to reschedule. Today, Oct. 14th I phoned and asked for "", the person that had promised to come to my home. The receptionist told me he was in a meeting and would phone me after. He did not. I am disappointed that this company is not willing to provide customer service in a reliable manner considering the product is guaranteed not to clog. This company continues to guarantee free flowing gutters.
I am unable to get the company to repair my gutter. On June 28th in the middle of a heavy thunderstorm, I noticed that the 2nd story downspout had become detached from the gutter on the main level. I immediately phoned customer service and scheduled a repair visit for the following Monday. No one ever showed up. Today is July 12th and after repeated phone calls to customer service, repair scheduling and rescheduling, and continuous no-shows by the repairman, my gutter still isn't fixed! I was assured by the customer service rep that someone would be at my house between 4:30 and 5:00 p.m. to repair the gutter. No one showed up.
I would like for my gutter to be repaired
This was corrected and signed off on 7/15/19 by Ms
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The gutter was repaired to my satisfaction
Purchased LeafGuard gutters from LeafGuard of TN. The salesman sold us on non-truths about the product. We want a complete refund & our gutters back. We purchased the LeafGuard gutter system from LeafGuard of TN. The salesman for the business came out and explained how the gutter systems work and that they keep out all leafs, pine needles, etc. while taking in the water from the roofs. We explicitly asked about the gutters taking in the water from our metal roof as it is highly sloped metal roof. He said the gutters were hurricane water rated and would take the rain that comes of our metal roof. He also explained they too put on metal roofs for houses and these gutters will handle the water coming off them. He never mentioned anything in the agreement about the gutters don't catch all the water or never pointed out any discrepancies in the contract.
We signed the agreement and set a date for install.
They came to install them and discovered there might be a problem with flow of water in the back. They had already cut the gutter and did not have a replacement gutter and would have to return. That took a week or so and several calls. It rained and water poured out the back of the house and flooded basement. It also was leaking heavily off the front of the house where the gutters were not taking the water.
They returned to reset the gutter but did not set the gutters correctly and water poured out again and over the gutter system as the gutters would not handle the water coming off the roof. While they were here, both installers said this was not the gutters for this house and it would not catch all the water. Their employees said this!
It rained again and the gutters leaked in the front and back again. Another call to *** (about call #10) and an email to LeafGuard to explain it doesn't work and included video.
*** called and said he was sorry but *** (I think that is his name) would be coming out to fix the problem.
June 19 (I think) they sent , their top install guy, out to fix the problem. *** also explained I should have 6" open gutter system on this type house, that these gutters will never collect the water coming off the roof. He reset the gutter but said this would not fix it. They would have to come back out and put in another gutter to back with a newly cutter gutter for the back section. Also, he said the front of the house would need to have holes cut into the tops for the "LeafGuard gutter that will handle all of the water off this house", where there are valleys in the metal roof and water is coming off quicker. (Cut holes in your perfect gutter system???)
They missed the appointment but arrived shortly afterwards. The installers cut holes in the front and put in a smaller enclosed gutter from back section to the next. They did not bring a new section in back, instead, they used a small 3" enclosed gutter and shoved it into the same LeafGuard gutter they had on. The gutters still would not take in the water coming off the roof.
Another call to *** and I also sent him more video.
We had a good 2 days of rain and I shot video of the front and back where the gutters were overflowing in parts, the newly installed small section shot water into the LeafGuard gutter causing it to overflow buckets of water.
July 11 I requested the owner call me and that I wanted these gutters off, a complete refund and our old ones put back on.
The owner emailed me and explained he would ONLY talk to my wife since she signed the agreement. He further stated the gutters will not catch all the water and pretty much I'm stuck with these. IF THE GUTTERS DO NOT WORK, WHY TRAIN YOUR SALESMEN TO SAY THEY DO??!!
Note: On June 5th they accepted $1,755 deposit. On June 10th they accepted $3,508 for the balance remainder and a total of $5,263.
The gutters they installed are guaranteed for life and do not work on the roof. We want full reimbursement of our purchase and our old gutters back or if they destroyed them, they need to put gutters back on our house as they were taken off.
We have had two staff members now that have videos of this working in the rain. There is a downspout that needs to be added that Mr. does not want. Also there is settling of the structure causing water to drain to the spots where he needs an additional drain.
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(1) They do not have videos of the gutters working in the rain. The only times they were here, it was just sprinkling, not a hard heavy rain that shows the gutters can't handle heavy rain. We have video of the gutters not working during a heavy rainfall.
(2) Regarding the downspout on the back porch they considered installing, would have potentially flooded our basement with runoff on our back-porch and/or had water exiting onto the back porch and causing wood decking to rot.
THEY chose instead to put an extension onto their gutter to go down the roof-line into their other gutter - which already overflows! They have since tried to fix that problem again (see below).
(3)The settling of the roof-line they are talking about was present when their salesman was here AND when the installers put the system in! They already knew about this and we discussed our concern with the salesperson before purchasing the gutters. The salesperson assured us that the gutters can handle "Hurricane strength rain". This was the reason we went forward with the purchase. If the system doesn't work on this type of settling, WHY PUT IT IN! They only wanted the sale and said what they thought we wanted to hear.
There are more overflow spots (about every 3-4 feet) that they have attempted to correct (AGAIN) on the front ONLY by cutting holes into the Leaf-guard gutters in order for the water to go into the gutters. They have not addressed the back gutters with the same overflow spots due to valleys in the metal roofing.
They sent their #1 installer out (again) to fix certain areas NOT all! He installed a back splash where the gutter overflows from their gutter to gutter downspout to try and keep the water in the gutter along with an additional downspout to the ground. On the front he changed the water hole grates to try to slow water down more and have it go into the gutters from the 3-4 foot apart overflow spots. He did nothing on the back for those same kind of issues even though those same kind of specific spots are on the back gutters.He also stated, "He doesn't know what else to do to fix all these problems we are having".
Since the last attempt of trying fix some of the problems, it has not rained. It has sprinkled, but no rain.
Today it finally did rain hard and the gutters failed again! The back gutters overflowed as did the downspout gutter to gutter addition. Even though the front gutters are a little better, they still have their 3-4 feet apart water spouts where the valleys are plus a place where water is pouring behind the fascia board which will cause rotting.
We took more video today.
I'm still of the mind that this type of gutter is not the right gutter for this house, but we will only be able to determine that when it rains heavy.
Open gutters would seem to be the ONLY solution... and they being the "experts" should know this..., at least by now. We've had other gutter installers here who said open gutters are the only solution... and again, their original installers said so too.
Revdex.com requests that LeafGuard of Tennessee representatives take time to view the video attached to this complaint and address all issues as soon as possible.
Customer service is nonexistent. Gutters have clogged for the second time in several years. After four calls in the last month with an assurance of a return call I have yet to hear from them. So much for guaranteed clog free gutters
We are sending a technician out to find out why this problem is occurring
The current Leafguard dealer did not I perform the initial work and this needs to be inspected to make sure it is under the current specs
It is now August 14. I sent requested pictures and confirmed address on July 39. I have still gotten NO response. I'm convinced that they have no intention of doing anything. It has been more than 2 months and SEVEN separate calls.
It is now August 22 and I have still had no response. This is the worst customer service I've ever experienced. I've informed them of my intent to let everyone I know of their lack of living up to their guarantee of clog free gutters.
Overflowing clogged gutter destroyed sheet rock ceiling of porch below. Leaf Guard guttering was purchased on 9/2/2011 with the company's advertised "never clog" guarantee. The gutters on the west side of the house clogged each fall when the willow oak tree lost its leaves. The installer cleaned the gutters if I requested it. On February 23 of this year heavy rain caused the gutter to overflow and ruin an extensive section of the drywall ceiling of the porch below. My insurance company inspected the damage and estimated repairs would cost just over $1000. Since this is the amount of my deductible we have not been compensated for our loss. On March 15 I wrote to Leaf Guard and filed a $1000 claim for the damage their gutters caused. I have received no reply to my letter and my phone calls have produced no results.
Compensation in the amount of $1000 to repair the ceiling of our porch. I am also requesting that the company replace the existing guttering on the west side of the house with their "MicroGuard" product to prevent further damages.
We had a manager go back out yesterday and talked to Mr.. He has a rubber roof that is leaking and we took pictures and informed him of this, Leafguard did not do this roof. This is not an issue attributable to Leafguard.
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Our rubber roof did not leak prior to the 2/23/2019 storm and it has not leaked during heavy rains since Leaf Guard cleaned the overhead gutter at my request. Their conclusion that a rubber roof leak caused the damage to our porch ceiling is based on their visual inspection of the roof on a clear day. The damage was caused by the sheer volume of water spilling over their gutter into the window well and brick wall below.
We have forwarded pictures to the Revdex.com showing the crack in the roof that has caused this issue. Leafguard is not a roofing company and cannot be responsible for a leaking and cracked roof
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There is no crack in the rubber roof. There is a small depression in the roof that holds water near the roof and the adjoining brick wall after a rain. The water dries up in a short time after the rain. When Leaf Guard inspected there was a small amount of standing water in the depression. They apparently assumed this water would leak into the ceiling below. That doesn't happen. Again, there was no leakage before the February storm and there has been no leakage since. The damage to the ceiling was caused by heavy leakage from a clogged gutter above. Their GUARANTEE of "gutters that never leak" was not upheld and a badly overflowing gutter was the root cause of the damage to the porch ceiling.
On 12/17 Leaf Guard cleaned all of our gutters. So the remaining issue is their responsibility for the damage the overflow of last February caused to the porch ceiling below.
Mr. had roof repairs in this area before that service call. He discussed those roof repairs with our lead technician. This is a non-shingle roof intended for flatter surfaces, which is also a walk out area. It's highly unusual to have a walk on roof. Our warranty covers free cleaning of the gutter if it clogs, which we have honored. We do not warranty home roofs or their water tightness. If Mr *** has another clog in that area, we will happily replace that section with a new piece of LeafGuard.
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Provided they replace their gutter over the garage which has a belly in the middle and they add a downspout to receive the flow from the high roof above which currently drains into the gutter over the garage.
No customer service or communication from the Leaf Guard since December 9th, 2018. We feel they would not follow up with future service based on the experience we've had so far. So we want a refund and out of contract. The manager stated this contract would never run out or could be broken. This is a company with poor business ethics and poor customer service. they did not handle this in a professional manner.
$2,100.00 refunded, and we want out of contract.
This has been scheduled with Ms *** twice. Mr *** called in and said he did not want the system he was informed he is under contract. This was once again scheduled with Mrs. but she called and said they were flooded and wanted to wait for water to recede so we could actually get to her house. She also stated she wanted the system installed as soon as weather permitted and that she knew this wasn't Leafguard's fault.
From December 9, 2018 till mid February 2019, there had been no contact from the LeafGuard company regarding installation. Per our contract, LeafGuard had 3 months to provide their services. NO CALL or letter or email was received from them during that period to set up an appointment with me. Finally I reached out to them. When I called them on February 12, 2019 to ask them why they had not contacted us, they did not comment on the reason but stated they would be out that Friday February 15. I told them my Sabbath would begin at sunset Friday till sunset Saturday and that we don't do business during that time. He then stated they would be out Monday February 18, 2019. On Monday the 18th began our Monsoon season. We were flooded for 3-4 weeks. During that time we were not contacted by them, so I called back and told them we were flooded badly and that they could not come on the property because they would get stuck. When I called the manager he told me we could not get out of our contract that it would never expire. My husband called him and they got into a shouting match, manager was talking above my husband till he had to just hang up. The manager was very belligerent and argumentative! In any business the customer is always right! He did not give us premier customer service as they advertise. This has caused great frustration and we fear doing business with a company that shows such disrespect to its customers. Also we had many sunny days prior to the rainy season for them to have done the work, again no contact from them, we had to initiate it.
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`++'s response: We do not want to do business with the Leafguard company after experiencing their poor customer service and lack of communication with us during the period of December 09, 2018 through February 11, 2019. They did not reach out to us I had to initiate a phone call! We had been impressed with the product at first, But after the rude and disrespectful conversation of the manager who was very belligerent and disrespectful to my husband, we do not want to do business with this company. This lack of communication extends through today, according to *** marketing manager from , he stated he would have his district manager call me today (4-18-2019) this has not happened. Due to this lack of communication, disrespect, and unprofessionalism we want our money back and out of this contract.
We have spoken with the 's on numerous occasions. We have explained that their contract is binding and this is a special order product, which is why we require a deposit. We have their materials ready to be installed.
There has been a total lack of follow-up to issues resulting from installation of Leafguard gutters on my home. On July 26, 2018 I contracted with Leafguard of Tennessee for purchase and installation of Leafguard gutters on my home. The contract was for $6576. I made a down payment of $1000, the rest to be financed upon completion of the installation. On August 2, the scheduler with Leafguard called to set up installation for the next day, August 3. I had to decline installation on that date as I had some landscape work that had to be completed before the gutter installation. On August 6, I called to set up installation and it was set for August 17. No one showed up. No one called. I called Leafguard, who postponed until August 24. On August 23, Leafguard called to postpone, and promised to call first thing August 24 to reschedule. No call on August 24. I called them back on August 27, and installation was finally completed that week. Sometime in September, I called to inform Leafguard that a hard rain had occurred and the gutter was waterfalling near my rear porch door. It took three calls (two no call, no shows) before someone came out to address the issue. The issue was addressed that week. On October 9, after another hard rain, I called again to request service since the waterfalling had not been completely eliminated. I was promised service in the late afternoon on October 19. No one showed up. No one called. On October 23, I called the scheduler with whom all of my correspondence had been, and was told by the receptionist that he was in an interview but would call me back as soon as possible. As of this date, November 1, I still have not had the courtesy of a return call.
I just want a resolution to the issue of the waterfalling that occurs during hard rain, and a commitment from Leafguard to honor their appointments or at least communicate with me and reschedule if they cannot honor their commitment on the promised day.
Mr *** has valleys on his home which are addressed on his contact in various places. We guarantee that his system will not clog but we (nor any other gutter system) will guarantee to collect all water in rains. This is all spelled out even on the front of the contact. We do not install splash guards to stop this water as it causes more issues than it helps. I would suggest that he look at this on his contract and even submit this to the Revdex.com so it is evident.
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The response addresses an issue which is irrelevant. The waterfalling that occurs during hard rains is not the result of valleys on the roof. In fact, Leafguard did come out and alleviated part of the problem prior to my registering this complaint, and as I pointed out to the installer the "fix" did not appear to be positioned correctly to alleviate the entire issue. He replied that he thought it would, but that if it didn't, they would come back and expand the "fix". A $6500 gutter system should not dump water on the entrance to my home in hard rains!
The problem with water over shooting in hard rains is covered in multiple places on Mr. contract. Leafguard is not guaranteed to catch all water coming off the roof of a home. Leafguard guarantees to keep the gutter from clogging. Mr *** also had Leafguard on a prior home with a different roof line with no noted problems. We specifically note in Bold print on the contract that valleys on a home will overflow.
I have scheduled service 4 times to have the gutters cleaned under warranty. A rep came on the 4th time and did half the job. I recently purchased a home (9/4/18) that has Leaf Guard (LG) gutters installed. I called LG to transfer the warranty into my name on or around 9/14/18 and request a gutter cleaning because they were clogged. LG said they would be out on 9/18/18. They did not show and I called to schedule again for the week of 9/24/18. Again they did not show. I called again to reschedule for the week of 10/1/18. They did not show. I called again to schedule for the week of 10/15/18. They arrived on 10/17/18 and spoke to my wife to say the gutters on the back of the house were out of reach with the ladders on the truck. I called LG and the scheduler left me a message saying they would have to come back on 10/18/18 with a longer ladder to reach the back gutters. LG has not been back.
I would like Leafguard to honor the warranty and uphold their scheduled time to clean the gutters.
This was taken care of yesterday the 10th of December 2018.
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LeafGuard came out today (12/12/18) to clean the gutters.
I am requesting a refund of my deposit because this company did not do the work. On 9/26/2017, A LeafGuard salesman came to my house to talk to me about gutters. I signed a contract with LeafGuard to install a gutter system on my house. The total cost was $6,400. I made a $3,200 cc payment deposit. When the installer arrived to install the gutters, he advised me that he could not install the gutters because the wood was deteriorated. He also told me that *** should have known that the gutters would not fit because of the wood. The installer also told me to call *** because he knew someone. I called *** and he gave my number to one of his friends. The friend called me and came to my house the same day and fixed the wood on my house and installed gutters too. LeafGuard never installed gutters.
I would like a full refund of my deposit.
Ms. contracted with our company to install Leafguard on her home. Upon arrival it was noted she had extensive wood damage. We graciously (shame on us) recommended someone to help her get the wood repaired. She then decided to use an inferior product from this person. We still have an existing contract with her with a special order product for her home. We tried to help her by recommending a person to help her which has now turned into an attack on our company due to her mis-judgement. We still have her product and are willing to install Leafguard on her home. In trying to help Ms *** we have become the bad guy in this situation.
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For the record, it was NOT noted on the contract that the wood had EXTENSIVE damage; nor did Leaf Guard salesman bring it to my attention when he wrote the contract. If he would have told me that I had EXTENSIVE wood damage, I would not have signed a contract to hang gutters that could NOT be hung in the first place; secondly, I would have found my own contractor to fix the wood--not his FRIEND. I was only told that the wood was damaged a month later when the Leaf Guard installer came to install the gutters. The Leaf Guard installer told me that salesman should have known the gutters could not be hung and that I should call him because he knew someone. I called salesman and he sent one of his FRIENDS over -- his FRIEND fixed the wood and installed the gutters. After his FRIEND installed the gutters, I called salesman back and told him that I wanted my money back because Leaf Guard did not do any work. Salesman told me that it was out of his hands. I contacted Leaf Guard Company in Knoxville multiple times thru out this past year. Leaf guard never called me back to try resolve this issue. Basically, the Leaf Guard salesman undercut Leaf Guard Company by referring one of his FRIENDS to do the work on a Leaf Guard contract that should not have been written because the gutters could NOT be hung anyway. This company has not tried to help me, the only thing Leaf Guard has done is take advantage of a senior citizen and kept my $3,200. FOR THE RECORD, I WOULD NOT HAVE GIVEN LEAF GUARD MY $3,200 IF I HAD I KNOWN THAT THE WOOD ON MY HOUSE HAD EXTENSIVE DAMAGE AND THE GUTTERS COULD NOT BE HUNG. I need my money back.
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THIS COMPANY TOOK ADVANTAGE OF A SENIOR CITIZEN. I WOULD NOT HAVE GIVEN LEAF GUARD $3,200 IF THE SALESMAN CLEARLY EXPLAINED OR WROTE (IN WORDS THAT I COULD UNDERSTAND) THAT THE WOOD ON MY HOUSE HAD EXTENSIVE DAMAGE. AS A SENIOR CITIZEN, I DID NOT KNOW THAT "FASCIA" REFERRED TO "WOOD". PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT I INTEND TO SEEK LEGAL ACTION.
Leafguard has a contract and this is fully covered on the contract with Ms . Leafguard is not responsible for rotten wood on a home nor does Leafguard function as home inspectors that give a detailed explain of all items wrong with a home. We will be happy to install the lifetime warrantied Leafguard system.
Leaf guard will not honor contract to fix mistakes. Purchased gutters May 2017 turrets not carrying water and leaking on to car port causing dangerous wet to senior citizens. Paid by check. Sales rep .
Is the company out of business as every number we call not in service.
The customer was calling old phone numbers that were not in use. We have spoken to them and set this up for correction next week.
thank you
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We have heard from them and accept that they are fixing the situation.
Had a slight mishap with a salesman but LeafGuard stood behind what he told me and completed the job. It takes a real company to do that so for that I would recommend to anyone. They completed the job in 1 day and I couldn't be happier with my gutters.
Gutters initially installed by LeafGuard. Failed to clean gutters when requested, repeated no show, directed downspouts to foundation which caused basement wall to collapse, no customer service. Called in June after owner passed away to have gutters cleaned. Supposed to receive a call back to schedule this. No response. Called again on 9/4. District manager said they were closed and she would have someone call. No response. Gutter fell off the house. Called again. No response. The downspouts had been directed DURING INSTALLATION to the foundation of the house. The basement wall sheared and we have had to do $10,000 in repairs. Talked with *** from the office, he gave several dates he would be there. Never showed. Finally, he was to be there October 6. He never showed. Even after ensuring us they would call before they were to be there, he instead showed up a day before the appointment. Scheduled to come repair the gutters on 10/19. No call to reschedule. When I called, he said they were too busy in *** or . We'll reschedule. I could continue on with the list of dates they were to show, the dates I called, the lack of response, but quite frankly I'm just appalled that any business behaves like this. We now have a new date of 11/21 (5 months after the initial call). This is the last chance. We have prepared all documentation and will give direction to our lawyer to file paperwork.
At the very least, I want the rotted fascia replaced and the gutter attached to the house. The downspouts will also need to be PROPERLY routed away from the foundation.
We have visited the customer and taken pictures.
The house is in a complete state of disrepair with adjustable posts holding up one side. We will make another visit first of next week 1/29 with another manager and contractor.
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The stability of the entire house has been evaluated by a structural engineer and no issues related to the posts were noted. LeafGuard has yet to produce a copy of the contract (promised to be delivered 2 months ago). They also stated on the last visit it was the fault of the roofing company. However, the roof was installed in 2005 and LeafGuard installed in 2007. All receipts for modifications and improvements made on the house have been documented and placed on a timeline. We also have the structural engineers report that was completed to determine the damage resulting from improper downspout installation. After 2 months of not hearing from LeafGuard, they have finally scheduled an appointment for 1/29 at 11am EST. If their record for following through is based on their previous responses, they will show up the day before scheduled without a tenant there or will fail to show at all.
Two managers met with Mr *** yesterday. He has hail damage to his roof and Leafguard was instructed to call his homeowners insurance. The drainage issue was due to clogged underground drainage pipes that Leafguard just attached to and did not install. As stated on our contract Leafguard is not responsible for underground drains.
I had in home estimate on 9-20-17. estimate on gutters was sale price..2,915.00 was suppose to have been given a 25.00 *** gift card. The person that did my estimate called (somewhere) and told me that my card would be mailed to mesh did not have them. I have called 3 or maybe 4 times myself and each time I have been told it must have just slipped through the cracks. Well I think I should have gotten what I was promised. Apparently it does no good to remind them I have never got the *** gift card. So I am hoping you can get it for me. It was promised on TV, and phone. So this is very misleading and a false claim.
Desired Settlement: To please send my gift card Thank You.
This will sent out this week.
Also we apologize and will also include a dinner certificate
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Business/Sales practice does not adequately differentiate between a "proposal" and a "contract".
After sustaining hail damage to my gutters, I called three companies and told them that I would like to get a quote to replace all the gutters on my house.
LeafGuard sent an estimator to the house on 3/31, and while onsite wrote up a document that I assumed was a proposal (see attached) for $7,000.
A few weeks later, (don't recall the exact date), a women from LeafGuard called and said that if I wanted to go ahead with the job I needed to get a deposit in. I told her that I had not made a decision yet.
On 4/21, I had all the proposals in, and made a decision about the one I wanted to use and informed the others that I would not be using them. The person I spoke with at LeafGuard said that he would have to pass that on "to someone higher up"
On the 24th, a person who identified themselves as LeafGuard's Regional Manager called and said that I was bound by "contract" to go ahead with the job! And furthermore, that if I did not give them authorization to go ahead with the work that they would sue me for the amount of the contract plus the attorney's fee. The caller agreed to hold off if I called back by the next day.
On the 25th, I called and tried to explain to them that I did not have a contract, I had simply asked for a quote. I said to the employee "what do you think the people at "", (whose logo appears on their paperwork), would think about this?" Their response was "you better not say anything bad about us or we will sue you!" I was then told that if I did not authorize the work by the end of the day that they would sue me and I would end up paying the $7,000 plus attorney's fees.
Also on the 25th, my son called and spoke with the same employee I had spoken with. He told the person that he was going to report their coercive tactics to the Revdex.com. Again, the person told him that if he did report them to the Revdex.com that they would sue him as well.
To Recap:
I clearly had requested a quote, and the company knew that I was getting others as well.
The LeafGuard employee that came to my house and wrote up my "quote" NEVER SAID ONE WORD ABOUT THIS BEING A CONTRACT WITH A 3 DAY PROVISION TO BACK OUT.
If this WAS a contract, why did a LeafGuard employee contact me to see if I wanted to "go ahead" with the job and indicate that a deposit would be necessary to do so?
Both of the other companies I got quotes from called and asked me if I was ready to sign a contract.
On the document that I signed, THE FOLLOWING ITEMS APPEAR, AND ARE LEFT BLANK:
o Installation within _________days upon acceptance
o Payment to be made via: _____________(Check, cash, Credit Card, Financing)
o Deposit $__________________
o Balance due upon completion of work $______________
o This contract does not become binding unless and until it has been accepted by an executive of LeafGuard. General Manager _________________________
The document does not show the Contractor's License Number.
Upon further investigation, the contractor does not have a County Business License according the County Court Clerk's Office.
I would like no further contact from the company other than an acknowledgement that this matter is closed and there will be no claims whatsoever against me.
Mr. signed a 2 page contract, and provided his insurance claim information, so that we could help him get needed information to his carrier. He already has our system, and his insurer, released the funds for LeafGuard replacement, with a signed contract. We've spoken to him numerous times, and realizing he was in a contract, he asked if he could make us a win win offer, good for him and us. That offer was made, according to him, because he decided he had some other projects in his home he needed to do, and he offered to pay us our profit. I declined that- as I told him, we don't do that, we just want to install the specialty product he ordered, per the contract. It really wasn't our issue that he wanted to use that money for something else. This is insurance fraud in our opinion, and we helped him with his insurance claim, on good faith he would perform his part of the contract. Many people have spoken to him in our office, and his stories have changed. At one point, he claimed he'd replaced the hail damaged LeafGuard, which wasn't the case, as a staff member drove by that day. We plan on turning this over for legal remedy, if this customer doesn't follow through with the signed contract, he has now collected insurance money on. I already covered the contract was accepted by mgmt with him.
(The consumer indicated he/she DID NOT accept the response from the business.)
To LeafGuard's Response
Regarding "help with insurance claim": I did not NEED nor did I GET any help from LeafGuard for this purpose. I filed a claim with my insurance carrier on 3/23/17. Their estimator was at my home on 4/1/17 and estimated the claim values for the roof and gutters. The claim has been partially paid by check to me and my bank on 4/3/17 with no connection to LeafGuard or any other contractor. The balance is to be paid upon verification the project is complete.
Regarding "specialty product": The product proposed by LeafGuard is the product they regularly sell. LeafGuard may regard them as special because of their patent(s) on the design, but I had no requirements for anything other than their regular product.
Regarding "insurance fraud": My insurance carrier has copies of my roofing contract and gutter contract. They have reviewed and accepted the contracts. I will gladly provide my carriers' phone number and claim number upon request. For you to claim that in your "opinion" insurance fraud has been committed is as preposterous as your claim that your "proposal" is a "contract".
Conclusion
I intended to act responsibly during this transaction and believe I have done so. Your part-time employee never said that he was asking me to sign a binding contract cancelable within 3 days. And based on the fact I told LeafGuard that I was requesting proposals from 3 companies, I had no reason to assume differently. As noted in my earlier statement, NONE of the specifics on the document, i.e. Deposit, Payment Method, Balance Due, Installation time frame....things that would complete the terms of a contract, are filled out. I would also call your attention to paragraph 1 on page 1 of the document that was submitted with my first complaint. It states: "This contract does not become binding unless and until it has been accepted by an executive of LeafGuard". There is no such signature; therefore this document is still a proposal. Had LeafGuard come back to me with everything above filled out, and signed by a company official, then obviously it would have become a contract and I would have responded accordingly. It is not clear to me why LeafGuard refuses to accept losing a job. That is a common experience in business. LeafGuard has lost nothing more than their estimator's time. I believe the handling of this transaction would not be found consistent with LeafGuard's corporate policies and trust they will recognize this and close out the matter.
LeafGuard stands by its original response, and has forwarded the file to an attorney, since Mr *** isn't standing by his contractual promise, and our conversations.
Unsatisfactory new gutter installation. On 8/30/16 a sales rep came to my home to show me the LeafGuard product. He assured me the company only used experienced installers and that upon completion someone from the company would come to my home to inspect the installation. The gutters were installed around 3 weeks later. No one from the company showed up for a final inspection and the installer informed me the other guy who was supposed to be helping him had quit. When it finally rained (several months later) I noticed the gutters leaked where they were installed around my bay window. I called numerous times before they finally sent someone out. Instead of correcting the faulty work where the gutters were pieced, the guy filled the inside of the gutter with sealant. This did nothing to correct the problem. I called the office again speaking with the office manager, who was rude, and insisted they had corrected the problem. I tried to explain how the gutters were still leaking and he told me to take a picture of it and send to him. I told him he needed to see it in person, that a picture wouldn't show him everything that was wrong. No one ever came out so after several months a friend of mine stopped by the office and spoke to *** about the problem. *** was extremely nice and offered to come by my house to look at the problem. He came by on his own time, which was on a Sunday, and spent about an hour inspecting the work. He admitted it had been installed incorrectly and needed to be replaced. He appeared to be somewhat embarrassed by what he saw and promised me he would get it taken care of. Since that day, I have sent him three different messages asking when the repairs were going to be done. Each time he says he'll remind . The last message I sent on March 23 I explained that it was imperative someone come out to correct the problem and that if I didn't hear from them in 7 days I was turning it over to the Revdex.com. I spent $5648.00 for these gutters and for that much money they should be flawless.
I feel like the sales rep misrepresented what the company offered. My installation was not done by an experienced installer. This company is only concerned with obtaining new business and does not see the need to follow through with their current customers. They already have my money so there is no incentive for them to take their time to fix the mess they made. They have very poor customer service and it has already been 6 months and I still do not have what I paid for. I just want them to do the right thing and fix their faulty work.
We regret that Ms *** has not been completely satisfied with her installation. We do not have a separate individual come to inspect an installation nor have we ever done this in almost 25 years of service. We have this scheduled to be inspected and corrected.
(The consumer indicated he/she ACCEPTED the response from the business.)
A service tech came out today, April 17, and replaced the inward angles around the bay window. It has not rained yet so I am unable to see if the problem has been corrected. As far as his comment about never sending an individual out for a final inspection, their salesperson should never have promised that. And *** has been aware since last November that I have had issues with the gutter installation. It was not until I filed the complaint with the Revdex.com that I received any kind of response. That's poor customer service.