W & R Transport Towing

Dear Revdex.com, WOWHow deep does this rabbit hole go? 1) I've attached a photo of the agreement signed by [redacted] aka [redacted] aka " [redacted] " 2) I've attached a copy of the CL ad which he posted 3) I've attached the letter PPL sent to him on my behalf 4) I have attached the response letter [redacted] aka [redacted] attorney sent to PPL 5) I have also included below, [redacted] aka [redacted] initial response to the PPL letter 6) I have learned that [redacted] aka [redacted] purchased the car on June 20th, from the [redacted] Auction 7) I have learned that [redacted] aka [redacted] failure to fill out a Vehicle Transfer Form in his name, as the seller, is considered fraud 8) I have learned that [redacted] will be relocating from his home/business address of [redacted] by the 31st of July and I am concerned that we may lose track of him 9) I am unable to find a contact phone number or owner name for [redacted] - the selling party represented on the document - the party that [redacted] aka [redacted] claims is also himI sense that this [redacted] is somehow part of his scam [redacted] aka [redacted] initial response to the PPL letter: Dear: [redacted] I, [redacted] , am the owner of W&R TransportIn the case of the Toyota ForerunnerW&R Transport did not sell the vehicle to [redacted] My business does not sell vehicles, nor has it sold any in the past, W&R Transportation is solely a transport businessI believe she has mistaken my business to be at fault in this case when my business had nothing to do with the sell of the Forerunner [redacted] Toyota Forerunner File No: [redacted] Sincerely, [redacted] W&R Transport If there is anything else you need please let me know Thank you for your assistance in this matter [redacted]

This letter is in response to your 7/14/15 letter to Mr. [redacted] . My client disputes Ms. [redacted] 's claim. My client does not sells vehicles, he is in the transport business. We do not know who sold the vehicle to her, and do not know why she thinks Mr. [redacted] sold to her. Tell you client to stop posting negative statements about Mr. [redacted] on [redacted] and [redacted] , otherwise he will proceed in suing her for defamation. Thank you for your anticipated cooperation with this request. If you should have any questions about this matter, please contact my office, Very truly yours, [redacted] Attorney at Law

Hi,
I tried to submit my rejection of the businesses resolution but the complaint portal kept giving me a Notice so I called the office and they instructed me to forward my response to you:
Revdex.com:I do not accept the response made by the business to resolve this complaint
I have reviewed a brief response (short paragraph from Mr*** aka ***'s alleged attorney) in which Mr*** aka *** lies when he states that "he never sold me the vehicle."
Reference to complaint ID ***
1) Mr*** aka *** is being dishonestThis is a matter of fraud. Mr*** aka *** sold me the silver Toyota Forerunner. This fact is indisputable and I have proof
2) Mr*** aka *** stated that he "tows vehicles and sells them frequently" and that the money "goes to the church"
3) Mr*** aka *** uses various aka's in order to deliberately deceive his victims I learned of his aka from a phone call to the policeHe originally identified himself, with a CA DL reflecting the name: *** ***The police informed me that his aka is *** ***. He sold me the car under the name: *** *** but he responds to the Revdex.com using the name *** ***He also has his "attorney" respond using the name *** ***. If I wouldn't have contacted the police I wouldn't have known that he uses an aka and apparently, Mr*** aka *** know thisHe operates under the presumption that no one would ever find out that he uses various names in order to scam them.
4) I have text messages from Mr*** aka ***, a signed agreement proving he sold me the vehicle, his DL # that he showed me to identify himself under the name *** ***, along with a copy of the original CL ad he posted in which he is offering the vehicle for saleIn the text messages, prior to purchasing the vehicle from Mr*** aka ***, I ask for the registration due date and the VIN number of the vehicleThe VIN number of the vehicle and the registration due date he provides in his text message match the VIN number and registration due date of the vehicle I have in my possessionThe vehicle I purchased from himThere are many more texts - in all - and all are indisputable proof that he sold me the vehicle
5) I have attached five photos containing text messages in which Mr*** aka *** confirms the VIN # and registration due date of the vehicle I purchased from him.
6) I can't help wondering how many other victims have fallen prey to this criminal
7) I purchased this vehicle from Mr*** *** aka *** ***The vehicle is non-operational. I am out $4,600. This situation: not having a functioning vehicle, or money to purchase another, dealing with this corrupt individual, having to reach out to so many organizations for assistance in this matter, has caused me a great amount of stress and lost income/clients I have filed a claim in Small Claim's Court, I have had Mr. *** aka *** served, and I have a hearing scheduled toward the end of September I have no doubt that I will prevail based on the facts and evidence in this matter.
Respectfully,
*** ***

This letter is in response to your 7/14/letter to Mr[redacted]

My client disputes Ms[redacted]'s claimMy client does not sells vehicles, he is in the transport businessWe do not know who sold the vehicle to her, and do not know why she thinks Mr[redacted] sold to herTell you client to stop posting negative statements about Mr[redacted] on [redacted] and [redacted], otherwise he will proceed in suing her for defamation
Thank you for your anticipated cooperation with this requestIf you should have any questions about this matter, please contact my office,
Very truly yours,
[redacted]
Attorney at Law

Dear Revdex.com,
WOW. How deep does this rabbit hole go? 
1) I've attached a photo of the agreement signed by [redacted] aka [redacted] aka "[redacted]".
2) I've attached a copy of the CL ad which he posted. 
3) I've attached the letter PPL sent to him on my behalf.
4) I have attached the response letter [redacted] aka [redacted] attorney sent to PPL.
5) I have also included below, [redacted] aka [redacted] initial response to the PPL letter.
6) I have learned that [redacted] aka [redacted] purchased the car on June 20th, 2015 from the [redacted] Auction.
7) I have learned that [redacted] aka[redacted] failure  to fill out a Vehicle Transfer Form in his name, as the seller, is considered fraud.
8) I have learned that [redacted] will be relocating from his home/business address of [redacted] by the 31st of July and I am concerned that we may lose track of him.
9) I am unable to find a contact phone number or owner name for [redacted] - the selling party represented on the document - the party that [redacted] aka [redacted] claims is also him. I sense that this [redacted] is somehow part of his scam.
[redacted] aka [redacted] initial response to the PPL letter:
Dear: [redacted]
I, [redacted], am the owner of W&R Transport. In the case of the 1999 Toyota Forerunner. W&R Transport did not sell the vehicle to [redacted] My business does not sell vehicles, nor has it sold any in the past, W&R Transportation is solely a transport business. I believe she has mistaken my business to be at fault in this case when my business had nothing to do with the sell of the Forerunner.
[redacted]
1999 Toyota Forerunner
File No: [redacted]
Sincerely,
[redacted]
W&R Transport
If there is anything else you need please let me know.
Thank you for your assistance in this matter.
[redacted]

Dear Revdex.com,
WOW. How deep does this rabbit hole go? 
1) I've attached a photo of the agreement signed by [redacted] aka [redacted] aka "[redacted]".
2) I've attached a copy of the CL ad which he posted. 
3) I've attached the letter PPL sent to him on my behalf.
4) I have attached the response letter [redacted] aka [redacted] attorney sent to PPL.
5) I have also included below, [redacted] aka [redacted] initial response to the PPL letter.
6) I have learned that [redacted] aka [redacted] purchased the car on June 20th, 2015 from the [redacted] Auction.
7) I have learned that [redacted] aka[redacted] failure  to fill out a Vehicle Transfer Form in his name, as the seller, is considered fraud.
8) I have learned that [redacted] will be relocating from his home/business address of [redacted] by the 31st of July and I am concerned that we may lose track of him.
9) I am unable to find a contact phone number or owner name for [redacted] - the selling party represented on the document - the party that [redacted] aka [redacted] claims is also him. I sense that this [redacted] is somehow part of his scam.
[redacted] aka [redacted] initial response to the PPL letter:
Dear: [redacted]
I, [redacted], am the owner of W&R Transport. In the case of the 1999 Toyota Forerunner. W&R Transport did not sell the vehicle to [redacted] My business does not sell vehicles, nor has it sold any in the past, W&R Transportation is solely a transport business. I believe she has mistaken my business to be at fault in this case when my business had nothing to do with the sell of the Forerunner.
[redacted]
1999 Toyota Forerunner
File No: [redacted]
Sincerely,
[redacted]
W&R Transport
If there is anything else you need please let me know.
Thank you for your assistance in this matter.
[redacted]

This letter is in response to your 7/14/15 letter to Mr. [redacted].
My client disputes Ms. [redacted]'s claim. My client does not sells vehicles, he is in the transport business. We do not know who sold the vehicle to her, and do not know why she thinks Mr. [redacted] sold to her. Tell you client to stop...

posting negative statements about Mr. [redacted] on [redacted] and [redacted], otherwise he will proceed in suing her for defamation.
Thank you for your anticipated cooperation with this request. If you should have any questions about this matter, please contact my office,
Very truly yours,
[redacted]
Attorney at Law

Review: I responded to a CL ad for a silver, 1999 Toyota Forerunner. I texted the seller, [redacted], owner of W & R Transport Towing, 505 Mollison Avenue, [redacted], CA / P.O. Box 600382, S.D., CA 92160. I met [redacted] at Starbucks on Sat., June 27th at 11:00 a.m. [redacted] brought his son along. I paid [redacted] $4,600 cash for the Forerunner. [redacted] failed to provide a smog certificate, or registration. He stated, You have everything you need. Trust me. The money is going to a church. Skeptical about the transaction I drafted an agreement stating: nothing is wrong with the engine/transmission for 30 days or I would get a full refund. We both signed it. When I asked why there were no oil stickers on the windshield documenting oil changes over the years. Mr. [redacted] stated, Because I always changed the oil myself. With so much on my mind I didnt realize until later that he was lying because he was in fact flipping the car. [redacted] gave me 3 Vehicle/Vessel Transfer Forms. The 1st lists Car Donating is Easy as seller, Steves Auto Sales 2141 30th Street, San Diego, CA 92104, as buyer. The 2nd lists Steves Auto Sales as seller, [redacted], Calle Sabinos No. 5, Delegacion Itacalco, Mexico D.F. 08900 as buyer. The 3rd lists [redacted] as seller, me as the buyer. [redacted]s signature on the Vehicle Transfer Form appears different than the signature on the agreement but I was led to believe both were his. When I asked how he acquired the vehicle he stated he owns a towing company and goes to auctions, tows cars, sells them, and that the money goes to the church. As I drove the vehicle back from [redacted] to Mission Beach it shook badly. I immediately went to Discount Tires to have the tires rotated but this didnt help. As I sat waiting I googled the name on the Certificate of Title, found a phone number and called her. The woman was upset that she donated the car to KPBS and somehow it was sold to me for WAY more than the donation and its worth. The first thing she said was, Is it running? She stated that it has major engine issues and thats why she donated it. [redacted] told me it was donated because she, the previous owner, was old. The woman said her mechanic had been working on the car since she got it in 1999 and that it has an unrepaired blown head gasket. She said her mechanic put sealer in as a temporary fix and valued the vehicle at $1,000. She said it has other problems and that those problems were disclosed. I brought the car to her mechanic. He confirmed the problem(s) and told me Id been scammed. He said the engine has been superficially cleaned since hed last seen it but no repairs have been made. I immediately shared this information with [redacted]. I told him I need to return the car for a full refund as agreed. The car was shaking badly. I didnt think it would make it to [redacted]. I asked if [redacted] could tow it since he has a towing company. He said he would in a text message but later reneged on the phone. I decided to have my mechanic look at it Monday. It was Saturday and he was closed. On Monday my mechanic told me the same thing the other mechanic said, Youve been scammed. I asked [redacted] to meet me at the same Starbucks. I drove the car to [redacted] from Mission Beach. It shook badly. I planned to return the car and take Uber home. [redacted] failed to show. Instead, he sent his alleged cousin and son in his place. These individuals demanded I hand over the keys because they wanted to take it for a test drive. They demanded that I rip up our agreement. They informed me theyd charge me for the time I had the car. I said Id be happy to hand over the keys and rip up our agreement if they first return my money. I disagreed with fees for use of the malfunctioning vehicle. They refused to return my money. Bullying and condescending they flashed an envelope containing a small amount of cash. I asked if we could count the money. They refused. I got the impression that if I would have ripped up our agreement and handed over the keys I would have incurred an even greater loss than I already had. I was convinced they didnt intend to return my money. The cousin got very angry and entered his vehicle with [redacted]s son. I told him again that Id be happy to rip up our agreement and give him the keys if he could ensure me that he wasnt going to drive away with my cash and that the full $4,600 was in the envelope. They refused to return my money, or count it in front of me. They took off and I was stuck with the malfunctioning vehicle. I have sent [redacted] many texts over the past 7 days to which he rarely responds. When he does respond his texts contradict what he states over the phone. He texts that he will meet me to give me a refund then reneges over the phone. I have estimates on repairs ranging from: $1,500 (short-term basic repairs) to $5,000 (actual repairs needed for it to be dependable). I have been told: it has a blown head gasket, bad radiator, leaks in the cooling system, fluid leaks in engine/transmission/differential, exhaust system damage/leaks/corrosion, sludge on inside of oil filler cap, coolant is discolored and brownish, oil residue under engine area. I had a coolant system pressure test. They discovered that pressure will not hold suggesting an internal leak. Front lower engine skid plate missing. Exhaust manifold has crack, etc. I have this in writing. Mr. [redacted] lied in his CL ad by misrepresenting the vehicle as IN EXCELLENT CONDITION. He lied about the mileage stating 167,000 in ad while the Vehicle Transfer form reads: 168,402 while the actual odometer read: 168,498. In conclusion, I understand that the sale of this car was illegal. CA requires sellers to provide a smog certificate. [redacted] never produced a smog certificate and reassured me I didnt need one. Secondly, [redacted] signed an agreement which clearly states, There is nothing wrong with the engine/transmission for 30 days and in the event this is untrue my $4,600 cash payment will be returned in full.Desired Settlement: I would like to exchange the car for a full refund of my $4,600 in cash. I don't feel safe interacting with Mr. [redacted] and his "associates" so, if at all possible I would like the police present at the exchange, or to have the exchange handled through the Revdex.com if that's possible.

Business

Response:

This letter is in response to your 7/14/15 letter to Mr. [redacted]. My client disputes Ms. [redacted]'s claim. My client does not sells vehicles, he is in the transport business. We do not know who sold the vehicle to her, and do not know why she thinks Mr. [redacted] sold to her. Tell you client to stop posting negative statements about Mr. [redacted] on Craiglist and Google, otherwise he will proceed in suing her for defamation. Thank you for your anticipated cooperation with this request. If you should have any questions about this matter, please contact my office, Very truly yours,[redacted]Attorney at Law

Consumer

Response:

Dear Revdex.com,